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YouTube's ban on “hacking techniques” threatens to shut down infosec YouTube

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Re: YouTube's ban on “hacking techniques” threatens to shut down infosec YouTube

#122
Time to revive the cypherpunks! We are hackers we can crack the hell out of these capitalists that are trying to shape reality or we can build our own platforms, people go where the hackers go, the internet was created by hackers lets take it back! www.gnu.org is a good place to start.

Re: YouTube's ban on “hacking techniques” threatens to shut down infosec YouTube

#123
post #105

The "instruction hacking.." bit at the end seems a bit out of place given the rest of the page. What it feels like is that its a poorly written attempt to ban software cracking and the computerized version of the previous "Instructional theft" ban without giving people the mental strings to discover how to get free warez and bypass things like hotel keycards, free token cards for the arcade/etc. Frankly, I'm frequent…

Obviously the spirit of the law is for youtube to have a way to remove "how 2 script kiddie" videos. But the letter of the law matters, and right now the letters say they can ban just about any video discussing the details of vulnerable systems.

That is true, but youtube is full of things which basically violate these principals. I will pick the second item "Extremely dangerous challenges" because its nice and safe/generic to talk about. I think everyone understands what they are talking about, but youtube has tons of instructional videos for doing things which could severely maim/kill careless or poorly trained individuals. The infamous Shanghi tower climb/etc video (83M views on just one of the versions) is actually on the tamer side of this, likely only violating a couple of the guidelines. Even, less scary are all the "this is how you run a table saw" like videos.

So they have broad guidelines that don't seem to be blanket enforced.

Re: YouTube's ban on “hacking techniques” threatens to shut down infosec YouTube

#124
Corporate, ad-supported platforms are inherently prone to arbitrary censorship... they always have been and always will be. If you want freedom, viewer/donation-supported distribution not tied to corporate interests is the only way to go. But, you have to get someone to pay or it all comes crashing down.

Re: YouTube's ban on “hacking techniques” threatens to shut down infosec YouTube

#125

The LockPickingLawyer, even with his 100M views, must be getting worried about this. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCm9K6rby98W8JigLoZOh6FQ/

Heck, anyone offering insider advice or education in many professions and trades should be worried: medicine, nursing, legal, engineering, aviation, maintenance (automotive, aviation, industrial and many more), physics and more.

Re: YouTube's ban on “hacking techniques” threatens to shut down infosec YouTube

#126
post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I understand correctly, YT is able to solve it because it has huge data centers which can cache the videos at appropriate locations all around the world. Honest query: do you think an individual/small group can replicate this? Perhaps GNU can take this up as an initiative.

GNU doesn't have the money to pull this off

What they need the most is contribution from coders

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#127
post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Overbearing youtube, 10 years from now if it's still a medium it may be a far-cry from an expressive and genuine platform Yahoo's not the place it was in its heyday. Facebook's not the place it was in its heyday. Even Google's not the place it was 10 years ago. I don't think anyone is immune. The best you can do it to make sure the trajectory is positive. Netflix isn't the place it used to be. I think that's positive…

What I am worried is that a lot of the "cool stuff" is disappearing from the web. I remember back in the day (late 90's) we had CrackStore, Phrack, Fravia, DeCSS, the box.sk domains a vibrant reverse-eng. community and a lot of really cool content. Nowadays with the USA policing a lot of that content has disappeared, and slowly people are pushed not to do new content. There are some very small efforts in some subredd…

In fact are there any other good gathering places than some obscure subreddits?

Re: YouTube's ban on “hacking techniques” threatens to shut down infosec YouTube

#128
post #119

Now might be a good opportunity for Pornhub to offer a reskinned version of their site. They already have the infrastructure and people do host non-porn related content there.

Fantastic idea, and honestly Pornhub's values are a good match. They're used to hosting explicit, controversial content, resisting even copyright takedowns (unfortunately), yet they do a good job of keeping outright atrocities off the platform (e.g. snuff films, child porn etc.)

But how would they make money off it? Infosec expats from YouTube are probably the most likely population to use ad-block of anyone!

Re: YouTube's ban on “hacking techniques” threatens to shut down infosec YouTube

#129
post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This time is different, because hackers are more likely to have the ability to solve this problem (even if it weren't for the fact that YT already solved it once more than a decade ago). YT probably made a big mistake here.

If I understand correctly, YT is able to solve it because it has huge data centers which can cache the videos at appropriate locations all around the world. Honest query: do you think an individual/small group can replicate this? Perhaps GNU can take this up as an initiative.

It's already been solved by the groups using the torrent system to create apps which allow "streaming" torrents. But every time one of these pops up it's immediately struck down by legal blows.
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