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Re: YouTube's ban on “hacking techniques” threatens to shut down infosec YouTube

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Post by StillBored »

The "instruction hacking.." bit at the end seems a bit out of place given the rest of the page. What it feels like is that its a poorly written attempt to ban software cracking and the computerized version of the previous "Instructional theft" ban without giving people the mental strings to discover how to get free warez and bypass things like hotel keycards, free token cards for the arcade/etc.

Frankly, I'm frequently surprised by what I stumble upon on youtube..

(better article with the TOS bits in question) https://www.malwaretech.com/2019/07/youtubes-new-policy-on-h...

Re: YouTube's ban on “hacking techniques” threatens to shut down infosec YouTube

#102

Post by ekianjo »

userbinator wrote: post #7

What's next, cracking and reverse-engineering? Debugging? (Anti-authoritarian) programming ? As usual, Stallman tends to be quite prescient: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.en.html (perhaps more like "right to watch" in this context.)

The best thing we could do at this stage is provide alternatives to Youtube, sooner than later.

Re: YouTube's ban on “hacking techniques” threatens to shut down infosec YouTube

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Post by bloaf »

StillBored wrote: post #101

The "instruction hacking.." bit at the end seems a bit out of place given the rest of the page. What it feels like is that its a poorly written attempt to ban software cracking and the computerized version of the previous "Instructional theft" ban without giving people the mental strings to discover how to get free warez and bypass things like hotel keycards, free token cards for the arcade/etc. Frankly, I'm frequent…

Obviously the spirit of the law is for youtube to have a way to remove "how 2 script kiddie" videos. But the letter of the law matters, and right now the letters say they can ban just about any video discussing the details of vulnerable systems.

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#108

Post by ilaksh »

ekianjo wrote: post #102
userbinator wrote: post #7

What's next, cracking and reverse-engineering? Debugging? (Anti-authoritarian) programming ? As usual, Stallman tends to be quite prescient: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.en.html (perhaps more like "right to watch" in this context.)

The best thing we could do at this stage is provide alternatives to Youtube, sooner than later.

There are lots of decentralized alternatives. People just don't use them much yet.

Re: YouTube's ban on “hacking techniques” threatens to shut down infosec YouTube

#109

Post by ripdog »

buzzerbetrayed wrote: post #71
leesalminen wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve been very happy with Cloudflare Stream lately. We stream ~2-3k mins/day and have never had a complaint.

Unfortunately Cloudflare has a history of censoring content as well though.

What? That... one time they took down a site? That site which claimed it was endorsed by cloudflare?

One incident isn't enough to become a 'history', and their actions were perfectly justified.

Re: YouTube's ban on “hacking techniques” threatens to shut down infosec YouTube

#110

Post by scarejunba »

darkpuma wrote: post #98
scarejunba wrote: post #80

It's inevitable. In Fahrenheit 451, books start getting banned because every person who ever gets offended starts asking for the thing that offended them to go away and people comply. This is what happens to big targets. It's why it's important to preserve the independent host.

That's an ironic book to reference in this context, since the book had such a dim view towards video.

Haha I didn't even think of that. Yes, that's pretty funny.
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