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Re: YouTube's ban on “hacking techniques” threatens to shut down infosec YouTube

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Post by rhizome »

kpU8efre7r wrote: post #23
jammygit wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I always think he’s mostly right, but a little too uncompromising, but then everything he says comes true. I don’t know how he predicted so far ahead at the time, it’s humbling. As a software author working at startups, am I part of the problem? I don’t understand how to make a good living without locking down the code to some extent, with few exceptions (it’s hard to found red hat)

He is technically correct, idealistic, and uncompromising. Unfortunately that doesn't really work in the real world unless your name is Richard Stallman. It's not pragmatic. I ignore him.

What ever happened to "the best kind of correct?"

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Post by ohazi »

userbinator wrote: post #41
jammygit wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I always think he’s mostly right, but a little too uncompromising, but then everything he says comes true. I don’t know how he predicted so far ahead at the time, it’s humbling. As a software author working at startups, am I part of the problem? I don’t understand how to make a good living without locking down the code to some extent, with few exceptions (it’s hard to found red hat)

I think he was a bit off with regards to source code/open source, because while having source code helps in understanding and modification, it's not essential; you could similarly imagine a world in which open-source wasn't a huge movement but instead the right to reverse-engineer (or basically, understand ) software was guaranteed, and it would have as great an effect on freedom; perhaps even more so, because now it…

Sometimes I wish people had developed an expectation that commercial software should come with the source code, rather than as (only) a binary blob. Licensing terms could be the same, but people would look at you funny and feel cheated if you tried to sell them a binary blob.

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Post by wybiral »

I'm just going to shamelessly plug an open source Golang project I've been developing to stream my own videos from my YouTube channel, but in a self hosted privacy-focused way.

Builtin Tor onion service support so you don't need domains or a static IP address, automatic RSS feeds, no database (the video data is read from MP4 metadata), and no JavaScript (the player is just HTML video).

In terms of self-hosting, obviously it's problematic if too many people access it this way, but my experience so far is that modern video compression is really good. I can get one of my 15 minute videos at 480p in around 50mb or so.

That's like loading weather.com five times. And since it's streaming the bandwidth is spread out enough to support plenty of connections (especially with Golang's IO support).

Check it out: https://github.com/wybiral/tube

Re: YouTube's ban on “hacking techniques” threatens to shut down infosec YouTube

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Post by StillBored »

userbinator wrote: post #7

What's next, cracking and reverse-engineering? Debugging? (Anti-authoritarian) programming ? As usual, Stallman tends to be quite prescient: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.en.html (perhaps more like "right to watch" in this context.)

The big thing RMS misses in that article is all the bio-identification that has been happening the last couple years.

Dan is going to get caught because the machine takes a picture of him when he logs in with a password instead of the fingerprint reader, cause you know can't have a PC without a camera pointed at the user..

Re: YouTube's ban on “hacking techniques” threatens to shut down infosec YouTube

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Post by wvenable »

keithnz wrote: post #72
userbinator wrote: post #7

What's next, cracking and reverse-engineering? Debugging? (Anti-authoritarian) programming ? As usual, Stallman tends to be quite prescient: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.en.html (perhaps more like "right to watch" in this context.)

youtube is not the internet, it's a privately run silo. I think it's actually better if people stop using it for everything. We've somehow got to the point where we are demanding private companies somehow preserve our freedoms simply because we've entrenched ourselves in their commercial products and given them control over content. Let youtube curate their content, I wish they'd do it more. Then maybe we will start…

Agreed. Youtube doesn't host pornography and, guess what, there are plenty of other sites that do.

I almost think the reaction to this is too pessimistic! "Oh YouTube is banning content the Internet is DOOMED". As long as we can freely connect to any service then there will always be an alternative.

Re: YouTube's ban on “hacking techniques” threatens to shut down infosec YouTube

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Post by sn_master »

sneak wrote: post #48
bouncycastle wrote: post #8

It's like banning Karate & Judo because it teaches violence. (When it actually improves personal security/safety)

Won’t be long until gunsmithing videos about how to manufacture machine guns (legal in most countries with the right license) are banned, too. EDIT: Spoke too soon. It’s already gone. https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2019/01/04/coat-hanger-m... What’s next? Lockpicking?

Please no! The lock picking lawyer is my favorite :(

Re: YouTube's ban on “hacking techniques” threatens to shut down infosec YouTube

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Post by sn_master »

pizzazzaro wrote: post #65
stcredzero wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Overbearing youtube, 10 years from now if it's still a medium it may be a far-cry from an expressive and genuine platform Yahoo's not the place it was in its heyday. Facebook's not the place it was in its heyday. Even Google's not the place it was 10 years ago. I don't think anyone is immune. The best you can do it to make sure the trajectory is positive. Netflix isn't the place it used to be. I think that's positive…

Short of moving hacking tutorials to pornhub, is there anywhere out there more interested in serving our fringe cases?

archive.org ?
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