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YouTube's ban on “hacking techniques” threatens to shut down infosec YouTube

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Re: YouTube's ban on “hacking techniques” threatens to shut down infosec YouTube

#61

YouTube is now officially dead to me. R I P

Don't know why you're downvoted. Probably because quite a few people here work for Google. I hate this downvote/upvote system so damn much.

It doesn’t add anything to discussion.

Re: YouTube's ban on “hacking techniques” threatens to shut down infosec YouTube

#62
post #17

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You certainly can host your own videos, but not for the cost, ease, and exposure YouTube offers.

All those things are overrated, putting up some videos on YouTube is no guarantee of an audience. You still have promotional work to do. And it’s not nearly as expensive to host videos now compared to the past.

Hosting and serving video is a real barrier to uploading content for the vast majority.

Also people don’t want to go to random sites for video, they like YouTube itself. Most video is discovered and watched entirely within, not from external links.

Re: YouTube's ban on “hacking techniques” threatens to shut down infosec YouTube

#63

Overbearing youtube, 10 years from now if it's still a medium it may be a far-cry from an expressive and genuine platform (Even worse-so than it is now). How long until biohacking, and other things are blocked based on the same sensitivity triggers for the topic?

Overbearing youtube, 10 years from now if it's still a medium it may be a far-cry from an expressive and genuine platform Yahoo's not the place it was in its heyday. Facebook's not the place it was in its heyday. Even Google's not the place it was 10 years ago. I don't think anyone is immune. The best you can do it to make sure the trajectory is positive. Netflix isn't the place it used to be. I think that's positive…

What I am worried is that a lot of the "cool stuff" is disappearing from the web. I remember back in the day (late 90's) we had CrackStore, Phrack, Fravia, DeCSS, the box.sk domains a vibrant reverse-eng. community and a lot of really cool content.

Nowadays with the USA policing a lot of that content has disappeared, and slowly people are pushed not to do new content. There are some very small efforts in some subreddits, but a lot of this is pushed to the underground, where it is difficult to find.

Re: YouTube's ban on “hacking techniques” threatens to shut down infosec YouTube

#64
I wonder if this will give a boost to a new Peertube instance dedicated to infosec content. Seems like this should be right up infosec's people alley.

Peertube uses web torrenting to distribute videos, so it should be possible to host it without needing the massive delivery infrastructure of Youtube.

Re: YouTube's ban on “hacking techniques” threatens to shut down infosec YouTube

#65

Overbearing youtube, 10 years from now if it's still a medium it may be a far-cry from an expressive and genuine platform (Even worse-so than it is now). How long until biohacking, and other things are blocked based on the same sensitivity triggers for the topic?

Overbearing youtube, 10 years from now if it's still a medium it may be a far-cry from an expressive and genuine platform Yahoo's not the place it was in its heyday. Facebook's not the place it was in its heyday. Even Google's not the place it was 10 years ago. I don't think anyone is immune. The best you can do it to make sure the trajectory is positive. Netflix isn't the place it used to be. I think that's positive…

Short of moving hacking tutorials to pornhub, is there anywhere out there more interested in serving our fringe cases?

Re: YouTube's ban on “hacking techniques” threatens to shut down infosec YouTube

#67
post #12

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Its much much much more expensive to host video content than anything else.

This time is different, because hackers are more likely to have the ability to solve this problem (even if it weren't for the fact that YT already solved it once more than a decade ago). YT probably made a big mistake here.

If I understand correctly, YT is able to solve it because it has huge data centers which can cache the videos at appropriate locations all around the world. Honest query: do you think an individual/small group can replicate this?

Perhaps GNU can take this up as an initiative.

Re: YouTube's ban on “hacking techniques” threatens to shut down infosec YouTube

#68

Next, they'll refer to these as "military grade software techniques" or "military grade tools".

End to end encryption was once classified as a munition.

If the data is not end to end encrypted, then it is public.

Everyone should understand this.

Re: YouTube's ban on “hacking techniques” threatens to shut down infosec YouTube

#69

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I always think he’s mostly right, but a little too uncompromising, but then everything he says comes true. I don’t know how he predicted so far ahead at the time, it’s humbling. As a software author working at startups, am I part of the problem? I don’t understand how to make a good living without locking down the code to some extent, with few exceptions (it’s hard to found red hat)

Honestly? Take the mentality you see in the world - the bottom line comes first, the consumer wants easy consumption, security comes first, whatever else - and try to imagine where that comes in conflict with the things you love. What would have caused that conflict? What, if anything, do you see coming out of it? And if you think Stallman was the tinfoil-hat prophet, you gotta hear about this guy Karl Marx. He predi…

I wonder what companies would be good investments to hedge for this possible future.

Re: YouTube's ban on “hacking techniques” threatens to shut down infosec YouTube

#70

Every news about authoritarian overreach prompts some discussion about the need for decentralization. Yet, decentralization of services is moot if the underlying physical connectivity layer can still be controlled/filtered from a single point. Then there's the matter of discovering decentralized/distributed services. We have literally billions of devices capable of sending and receiving signals, including millions of…

Regarding content and video distribution, we already have a working decentralized platform: BitTorrent. We even have clients allowing searching and previewing videos from torrents (PopcornTime and the like). The infrastructure is already there, the only barriers are psychological at this point.

> the only barriers are psychological at this point.

For me, the barriers are: eating up more than the file's size from my limited ISP quota, and CPU and battery usage when unplugged.

The CPU and battery issues can be resolved by seeding only while charging/idle/under a specific CPU temperature. One hemisphere could serve the other while half the world sleeps every day/night.

As for data caps, we again see the need for decentralizing the physical connectivity layer.

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