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Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp outages

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Re: Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp outages

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I find the outages of the last few days a curious coincidence : Slack, Google, Cloudflare, Azure, now FB. edit : added Slack after @kache_ mentioned it, added Azure after stevehubertron mentioned it.

Cloudflare's already stated that their outage yesterday was their own mistake: https://blog.cloudflare.com/cloudflare-outage/

Ofcourse. And banks are never hacked or stolen from

Re: Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp outages

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You're not being fair to Europe's very impressive contributions. After all, European companies lead the way in the production of rolling pollution machines, aka ICE vehicles. Besides, the US has cleaner air than most of Europe, thanks to the intense diesel particulate pollution across European cities. Who can forget the infamous Paris smog photos from a few years ago (which is still an ongoing problem)? Don't worry t…

I don't think he meant to offend you. Moving around in many if not most European cities without a car is a lot easier than to do so in the US. The US also has higher cars per capita: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_vehicle...

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Re: Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp outages

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post #37

This gives me a lot of confidence in their crypto currency.

1) Cryptocurrency ops are so vastly different from running a social website that I can't even think of any overlap. 2) I hate Facebook as a company, but as a builder/scaler of web apps for many years, I'm continually blown away by the speed and reliability of their website. Their operations are mind-blowing. The only comparable apps (in terms of scale) are Gmail and YouTube, and Gmail is simpler in certain key areas…

How would bgp routing failures and cut fiber NOT also impact digital currency networks?

Re: Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp outages

#195
post #49

Looks like Facebook image store is having issues. Facebook, Instagram and WhatsApp use the same image store, so all the services are affected.

My concern there is my understanding has always been that WhatsApp implements end to end encryption through the Signal protocol, how can images be stored and be considered end-to-end encrypted? So are only text messages end-to-end? Ignoring logs being uploaded to the cloud. I wouldn't send any sensitive pictures over WhatsApp then.

E2E encryption doesn't mean P2P networking. Data still flows through servers.

Re: Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp outages

#196
post #6

I find the outages of the last few days a curious coincidence : Slack, Google, Cloudflare, Azure, now FB. edit : added Slack after @kache_ mentioned it, added Azure after stevehubertron mentioned it.

Could it be a physical infrastructure problem? There are occasional issues with fiber cuts that cause outages. I'd imagine many companies rely on such a critical piece of infrastructure.

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Anecdata is always funny because I hardly know anyone that uses debit. Credit all the way.

Why is that? What's some advantages of having a credit card versus a debit one?

Ignoring the obvious one that you can pay for things you don't currently have enough money for (bad idea in general), I pay for almost everything on a visa card for travel points.

Re: Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp outages

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post #194
post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1) Cryptocurrency ops are so vastly different from running a social website that I can't even think of any overlap. 2) I hate Facebook as a company, but as a builder/scaler of web apps for many years, I'm continually blown away by the speed and reliability of their website. Their operations are mind-blowing. The only comparable apps (in terms of scale) are Gmail and YouTube, and Gmail is simpler in certain key areas…

How would bgp routing failures and cut fiber NOT also impact digital currency networks?

As long as the ledger is replicated on machines that are outside the affected areas, the network would be fine.

Re: Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp outages

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Parent is referring to the holiday tomorrow in the United States.

I think GP understood quite well and wanted to express their dissatisfaction with the assumption that everyone is American.

The comment I was replying to was literally a link to a RAND report warning of such things in the US, the reporting starting off as:

"The chances are growing that the United States will find itself in a crisis in cyberspace, with the escalation of tensions associated with a major cyberattack, suspicions that one has taken place, or fears that it might do so soon."

Re: Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp outages

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post #148

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I think GP understood quite well and wanted to express their dissatisfaction with the assumption that everyone is American.

Is there an official HN stance on this? There have been times I comment, with frustration, that a statement/positions can be hard to grok for those who don't have an automatically-American context in mind (you know, because they might not live in America) the downvotes come swiftly and snarky comments about "this is an American messageboard" follow. So I'm actually genuinely curious what YC/HN's official position on…

There was already a US-centric context via the parent comment:

It was a link to a RAND report warning the US Military of cyber-attacks in the US, the report starting off as: "The chances are growing that the United States will find itself in a crisis in cyberspace, with the escalation of tensions associated with a major cyberattack, suspicions that one has taken place, or fears that it might do so soon."

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