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Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp outages

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Re: Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp outages

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post #16

One interesting thing I noticed is the ALT text that is displayed in place of the missing images. It shows how their image recognition is classifying everything. I guess a lot of my friends drink as a lot of the alt text was like "Image may contain: drink"

That's an accessibility feature and has been around for at least a couple of years, I believe.

Re: Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp outages

#42
post #18

One interesting thing I've noticed from this (not sure if this is just my experience or if others noticed as well) but none of the ads seem to be impacted by this. Certainly makes me wonder if those are on a more prioritized and entirely separate infra and SLA that is designed to be more resilient and highly available.

> Certainly makes me wonder if those are on a more prioritized and entirely separate infra and SLA that is designed to be more resilient and highly available.

There's absolutely no doubt that the ads are served differently. Think about it this way:

- Ads: Small number, each served to many people, funded with real cash, but you can't get the cash if you don't serve the ads.

- Photos: Large number, each served to few people, funded by money left over from ads, and if you don't serve them your (non-paying) customers get frustrated.

My guess is that ads is funded well enough that they can run at lower resource utilization, and much more effort is made to run photos at high resource utilization. That's how I'd run it.

Re: Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp outages

#43
post #29

Noticed it this morning (~2 hours ago) on WhatsApp, voice messages weren't working, and still aren't. So, code deploy or server configuration change?

Seems like if it is affecting their services so broadly it is a server configuration change

Yup, seems like it. This is second time in a couple of months that they've been down.

Re: Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp outages

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

People who make defense policy have been assuming the answer to that question was "yes" for about 20 years now. It's sometimes described as "cyber precedes kinetic." https://www.rand.org/pubs/monographs/MG1215.html

Thank you. So we are basically waiting for a Twitter outage.

I think Twitter DMs are having issues too...

Re: Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp outages

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post #31
post #15

I wonder what kind of economic damage all these recent outages add up to. How much harm are they causing, in terms of productivity and value. Facebook's social networks I'd imagine are less impactful than the slack outages, which could completely cripple a company if they were primarily remote.

I think we should think about it more as the economic gain being experienced when people don't have these things to distract them.

There was an old joke from I believe Jerry Seinfeld which came out around the time the Y2K scare was in full force.

I am probably going to butcher it as I am no comedian but it went something like:

>All these people are freaking out about this whole Y2K thing. What are we going to do when the internet and computers all stop working?! I always respond with, "I know it will be horrible, it will be like living in the 80s again"

Now clearly I realize if all computers went down there would be real world consequences and issues, however I still like the joke.

Re: Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp outages

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually, I started wondering the last few minutes : what if the next worldwar would start on the internet? Or is this a common assumption already? I had not connected Huawei to my conspiracy theory yet, but just did.

People who make defense policy have been assuming the answer to that question was "yes" for about 20 years now. It's sometimes described as "cyber precedes kinetic." https://www.rand.org/pubs/monographs/MG1215.html

Ok, so unfriendly sovereign nations are trying to “hurt” us by making social media inaccessible? I’m half joking here, but perhaps we should all be out, about, and enjoying Independence Day in person rather than through our phone screens.

(Yes I realize WhatsApp is a different segment, an important way people communicate.)

Re: Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp outages

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

People who make defense policy have been assuming the answer to that question was "yes" for about 20 years now. It's sometimes described as "cyber precedes kinetic." https://www.rand.org/pubs/monographs/MG1215.html

Ok, so unfriendly sovereign nations are trying to “hurt” us by making social media inaccessible? I’m half joking here, but perhaps we should all be out, about, and enjoying Independence Day in person rather than through our phone screens. (Yes I realize WhatsApp is a different segment, an important way people communicate.)

Afghani independence day? Or Iraqi independence day? Or did you mean Libian independence day? Syrian perhaps?

In NL there is currently no independence day.

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