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Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp outages

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Re: Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp outages

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post #15

I wonder what kind of economic damage all these recent outages add up to. How much harm are they causing, in terms of productivity and value. Facebook's social networks I'd imagine are less impactful than the slack outages, which could completely cripple a company if they were primarily remote.

I think we should think about it more as the economic gain being experienced when people don't have these things to distract them.

Re: Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp outages

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post #15

I wonder what kind of economic damage all these recent outages add up to. How much harm are they causing, in terms of productivity and value. Facebook's social networks I'd imagine are less impactful than the slack outages, which could completely cripple a company if they were primarily remote.

You ain't seen nothing yet : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SQL_Slammer

Re: Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp outages

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post #6

I find the outages of the last few days a curious coincidence : Slack, Google, Cloudflare, Azure, now FB. edit : added Slack after @kache_ mentioned it, added Azure after stevehubertron mentioned it.

Whatsapp is having problem delivering downloads now (at least where I live)

Re: Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp outages

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post #6

I find the outages of the last few days a curious coincidence : Slack, Google, Cloudflare, Azure, now FB. edit : added Slack after @kache_ mentioned it, added Azure after stevehubertron mentioned it.

Why curious? Is there anything to make you believe there is foul play?

Re: Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp outages

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

People who make defense policy have been assuming the answer to that question was "yes" for about 20 years now. It's sometimes described as "cyber precedes kinetic." https://www.rand.org/pubs/monographs/MG1215.html

Thank you. So we are basically waiting for a Twitter outage.

If Dropbox goes down, then something serious may be going on.

Re: Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp outages

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This gives me a lot of confidence in their crypto currency.

1) Cryptocurrency ops are so vastly different from running a social website that I can't even think of any overlap.

2) I hate Facebook as a company, but as a builder/scaler of web apps for many years, I'm continually blown away by the speed and reliability of their website. Their operations are mind-blowing.

The only comparable apps (in terms of scale) are Gmail and YouTube, and Gmail is simpler in certain key areas (e.g. mail delivery isn't millisecond-sensitive for a user).

Re: Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp outages

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post #25

Surprised this impacts Whatsapp as well which seemed to store everything encrypted on your device...

Likewise. If it's a well-thought out encrypted blob store, fine... But given that Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp would seem to have vastly different caching and security requirements - its hard to believe. Is any of this architecture publicly documented?

I think Zuck himself said recently they're moving to encrypt everything and merge infrastructures for single login across properties (which a lot of us think is them sneakily trying to make their web properties a lot harder to split up in an anti-trust case).

Re: Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp outages

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I first noticed Instagram then realized it was Facebook and their other properties such as What's App as well. Is very odd all of these major outages this week. By Cloudflare at least said it was an employee error, so assuming it's not subtle attacks by other countries unless companies like Cloudflare are required to legally provide an alternate story for national security.

According to Digital Attack [1] it seems the world is constantly on DDoS.

[1] https://www.digitalattackmap.com

Re: Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp outages

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Noticed it this morning (~2 hours ago) on WhatsApp, voice messages weren't working, and still aren't. So, code deploy or server configuration change?

They're implementing their personal data harvesting tools into WhatsApp and the sheer amount of content being pulled from their servers was too much to handle and it crashed

/s but probably true eventually

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