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House lawmakers ask Facebook to put Libra cryptocurrency project on hold

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Re: House lawmakers ask Facebook to put Libra cryptocurrency project on hold

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This is not surprising. The minute Libra starts operating it becomes the main money laundering tool in the world. Depending on how it's implemented it could easily topple the economies of smaller countries, and significantly increase funding for terrorist organizations and garden variety criminals.

I don't see how any government, and especially the US government, agrees to any of that anytime soon.

Re: House lawmakers ask Facebook to put Libra cryptocurrency project on hold

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>“Because Facebook is already in the hands of over a quarter of the world’s population, it is imperative that Facebook and its partners immediately cease implementation plans until regulators and Congress have an opportunity to examine these risks and take action,” the letter says. We're scared that you have the ability to disintermediate our control of the financial system just like you did to publishers.

Forced to choose between Facebook and a government controlling anything, I'd rather have the government at the wheel. For me this is a "devil I know" type of thing.

I’m probably reading too much into your comment, but there’s a big difference between “a” government and “the” government depending on where you live. I don’t trust Facebook at all, but I trust them more than I trust certain governments around the world. At least they don’t have a military. Sometimes assholes without guns are better to have in charge than anyone with guns.

Re: House lawmakers ask Facebook to put Libra cryptocurrency project on hold

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Dan Larimer's EOS functions very similar to Libra, with Delegated Proof of Stake. EOS' DPOS encountered much of the same criticisms around centralization when it was launched, but many people swear by it just because it is good enough. Delegates ("block producers") do reverse transactions on EOS and they consider it a feature. EOS is not immutable, but it does have faster transaction capacity than incumbent chains li…

EOS = centralized premined scam.

Re: House lawmakers ask Facebook to put Libra cryptocurrency project on hold

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This gets it all wrong, IMHO. An "official ask" rather than actual laws or regulations comes across as silly, self-serving and grandstanding -- although it is in Facebook's self-interest to work with Congress. The problem here is the potential for uncompetitive dominance -- just like Google or Apple can unfairly favor their own products in Search or apps, what does it mean for Facebook to favor or only allow its own…

How will Libra cut into the US credit card processing margins? Stripe will charge small customers 2.9% + $0.30 per transaction, and I'm sure large customers get as low as 0.9%.

Does Libra stand to cannibalize that margin/business model over night?

Re: House lawmakers ask Facebook to put Libra cryptocurrency project on hold

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> This is why we believe in and are committed to a collaborative process with regulators, central banks, and lawmakers to ensure that Libra helps with the kinds of issues that the existing financial system has been fighting, notably around money laundering, terrorism financing, and more. This was inevitable, but it's surprising to see them acknowledge it. > combined with the ability for law enforcement and regulators…

This might depend on what you consider a “regular bank” but every bank and exchange I’ve ever come into contact with requires documentation and vetting to ensure that I am who I say I am and that I’m not not laundering money, and if the police come with a warrant they get everything they ask for.

I think you might be thinking of specific banks and shell company schemes in Panama and not what most people would describe as a regular bank.

Re: House lawmakers ask Facebook to put Libra cryptocurrency project on hold

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This is not surprising. The minute Libra starts operating it becomes the main money laundering tool in the world. Depending on how it's implemented it could easily topple the economies of smaller countries, and significantly increase funding for terrorist organizations and garden variety criminals. I don't see how any government, and especially the US government, agrees to any of that anytime soon.

lol.. I don't think people realize how the legacy banking systems already facilitate this activity

HSBC was recently fined for laundering billions for the cartels. This activity happens on an industrial scale and a Facebook cryptocurrency isn't needed for these groups to move money.

Re: House lawmakers ask Facebook to put Libra cryptocurrency project on hold

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Could the government effectively regulate/curtail libra by essentially telling Facebook's financial partners like Visa, Mastercard, PayPal, Stripe, etc that they risk losing their licenses by promoting/handling Libra?

In theory maybe, but I don’t think you’d find a politician willing to risk their reputation to pull the plug on Visa. Not only would it be a major blow to the economy but it would be a giant pain in the ass for their constituents. When’s the last time you went into a bank to take out cash? When’s the last time you had cash in your wallet at all?

Visa wouldn’t be the biggest loser in that scenario, the politicians/regulators would.

Re: House lawmakers ask Facebook to put Libra cryptocurrency project on hold

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Forced to choose between Facebook and a government controlling anything, I'd rather have the government at the wheel. For me this is a "devil I know" type of thing.

I’m probably reading too much into your comment, but there’s a big difference between “a” government and “the” government depending on where you live. I don’t trust Facebook at all, but I trust them more than I trust certain governments around the world. At least they don’t have a military. Sometimes assholes without guns are better to have in charge than anyone with guns.

Facebook is just as much protected by people with guns as any government.
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