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A Kernel Engineer at Microsoft's Answer to “What Do You Think about ReactOS?”

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Re: A Kernel Engineer at Microsoft's Answer to “What Do You Think about ReactOS?”

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I do not wish to view the leaked copies of Windows source code, unfortunately. It does have potential legal ramifications, in the United States. If someone who doesn't care can attempt to audit it, that would be absolutely great. That said, KiInitializeContextThread isn't 'secret' enough to not appear, it is a well-known bit of internals. Here you can find some docs about it on Microsoft's own website, albeit I have…

If Microsoft cared, they wouldn’t be hosting that on their very own servers. GitHub belongs to Microsoft. They could pull that down at any time just because they feel like it. But they haven’t. That’s a pretty solid sign that there’s not any legal consequence to viewing it.

For what it's worth, it's not just Microsoft who care. You're not allowed[1] to contribute to Wine if you've ever seen the leaked Windows source code. I think it's weird that they consider your mind to be "tainted" forever, but whatever. I guess they want to be cautious.

(You're also not allowed to contribute to the Wine CRT if you've ever seen the CRT source that's legally distributed with the Windows SDK.)

[1]: https://wiki.winehq.org/Developer_FAQ#Who_can.27t_contribute...

Re: A Kernel Engineer at Microsoft's Answer to “What Do You Think about ReactOS?”

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Hello from ReactOS team! We don't use the leaked code from MS, We don't use Windows Research Kernel, We thank you for the PR campaign you have stared 'pro bono' for our project! ;D

Why would you call it a PR campaign if it wasn't favoring you? Just curious.

Probably because it makes far more people aware that ReactOS even exists.

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Thanks for the link, o for a bunch of new followers on Quora today and was wondering why :) There are lots of good answers in this thread. In particular, someone took the time to look at the code, and that person wrote it only took them minutes to find similarities that make my opinion difficult to dismiss. About the lack of documentation, consider that only a tiny fraction of the kernel’s internals surface in the DD…

One small correction. On quora, you state that there is no such thing as public documentation for the NT kernel internals.

There IS public documentation for the NT kernel internals. It is called Windows Internals Book (https://amzn.to/2xCQla5) and has survived its’ 7th Edition

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Thanks for the link, o for a bunch of new followers on Quora today and was wondering why :) There are lots of good answers in this thread. In particular, someone took the time to look at the code, and that person wrote it only took them minutes to find similarities that make my opinion difficult to dismiss. About the lack of documentation, consider that only a tiny fraction of the kernel’s internals surface in the DD…

Do you think senior management at MS believes your comments are a good idea or at best benign? Or do you think all the details of your comments have just not yet fully reached VP level, legal, and PR? I'm thinking they'd disapprove. That's just a guess, maybe they think it's fine and great. However, it may be worth at least considering another possibility. Does your company want random technical employees, making non…

There are other jobs, would you really want to work some where that makes you afraid to have an opinion?

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ReactOS underwent a big audit years ago because people kept saying things like this, and AFAIK it's over and nothing exciting turned up. [1] - https://reactos.org/wiki/Audit

The author of post, Axel Rietschin at Microsoft, should remove this post and publicly apologize for his baseless defamation of ReactOS ("like a baby mosquito on the back of an giant elephant") if he cannot give authoritative evidence to back his claims. There may be copyright issues in some subroutines, but calling the entire project "a ripoff of the Windows Research Kernel" is an extraordinary, arrogant claim. If yo…

Saying "like a baby mosquito on the back of an giant elephant" is not a defamation. It's a metaphor. He's saying that the project doesn't really threaten Microsoft so they'll probably just ignore it.

Re: A Kernel Engineer at Microsoft's Answer to “What Do You Think about ReactOS?”

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Why would you call it a PR campaign if it wasn't favoring you? Just curious.

because a lot of people probably just learned about ReactOS as a result of this controversy. "There's no such thing as bad press." -someone

The controversy is just unverifiable claims from a Microsoft employee. ReactOS comes out looking pretty good.

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Microsoft has made great strides in opening up some of their code lately and the focus seems to be more and more on Online services. I hope one day, sooner or later, they go all in and open source Windows. That would be a great day.

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You can get knowledge of the internals and ideas of the algorithms from reverse engineering the released Windows binaries

Do you believe that is what Microsoft employees do while writing Windows Internals? I have serious trouble believing it. I'm not saying that it's not possible, just that it might not be the case there and these facts seem to confirm it.

Alex Ionescu wasn't a Microsoft employee, though.

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Uh-oh. Someone didn't check with MS LCA before posting this. Bad move.

Can you please explain what is MS LCA?

non existent - they are called by a different name in MS (and also have clear guidance for things like this, which was not broken)
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