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Re: Cannabidiol in Anxiety and Sleep: A Large Case Series

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Post by cmclaughlin » Wed, Jul 03, 2019, 4:45 AM UTC

TaylorAlexander wrote: post #43

spectramax wrote: post #6

Stupid question but I’ve always wondered this - I hear Cannabis is used for anxiety relief but doesn’t smoking marijuana induce anxiety? Everyone I know who has smoked weed agrees with my experience - they’ve encountered some level of anxiety and paranoia. So, how exactly does weed help in reducing anxiety? Edit: Follow up question -> Is weed used to treat anxiety during the high or when you are normal (and have gene…

A few personal anecdotes: Sativa has a stronger anxiety producing effect for me than Indica if I remember correctly. I really only smoke sativa. That said, some sativa strains produce more anxiety than others. But when I do experience marijuana-induced anxiety, it tends to be very near the beginning of the high and subsides pretty quickly.

Just the opposite for me. I find Sativa to generally lift my mood. I'm more likely to be social, carry on conversations and have interesting thoughts. Compared to Indica, which for me has more of a lazy effect. That may be great for serious pain management, but if I'm laid up my mind is more likely to go in different directions.

Re: Cannabidiol in Anxiety and Sleep: A Large Case Series

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Post by xenospn » Wed, Jul 03, 2019, 4:45 AM UTC

kneel wrote: post #63

ktaylora wrote: post #61

Probably need to repeat this study with 72 additional individuals treated with a placebo to compare against the cannabidiol group. My guess is that just thinking that you are doing something about your anxiety and sleep issues will result in decreased anxiety.

Anecdotally this study confirms what I already found out on my own, CBD capsules helps my body relax with none of the anxiety that THC can trigger. No doubt other people are having the same realizations, CBD capsule prices have gone through the roof.

I've never used THC other than smoking or two or three times in my adult life. Tried CBD for a while and honestly could not feel a thing. Felt like I was taking vitamins.

Re: Cannabidiol in Anxiety and Sleep: A Large Case Series

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Post by wallacoloo » Wed, Jul 03, 2019, 4:46 AM UTC

inciampati wrote: post #53

gnulinux wrote: post #50

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Just a data point. I dealt with anxiety my entire life, and too much weed absolutely destroys me but small amount of weed definitely calms me down. When I smoke too much weed, it really doesn't feel like my anxieties deep down are surfaces. It feels like my brain is making up new stupid things. To me, weed is a very strong sensory experience. When I'm too high it almost feels I'm hearing too much, feeling too much, s…

What kind of made up anxiety have you encountered? I ask just to understand. I've never run into an anxiety after smoking weed that wasn't rooted in reality. I find it helpful for the same reasons the previous poster stated.

That the airplanes constantly flying over your home, which you can hear but not see, are actually missiles being lobbed across the world as countries that are not your own duke it out.

Not completely rooted in reality, and you’ll probably calm down as you come down. But now you feel a brief stab of anxiety any time you hear an airplane fly overhead.

Re: Cannabidiol in Anxiety and Sleep: A Large Case Series

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Post by TaylorAlexander » Wed, Jul 03, 2019, 4:47 AM UTC

cmclaughlin wrote: post #71

TaylorAlexander wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A few personal anecdotes: Sativa has a stronger anxiety producing effect for me than Indica if I remember correctly. I really only smoke sativa. That said, some sativa strains produce more anxiety than others. But when I do experience marijuana-induced anxiety, it tends to be very near the beginning of the high and subsides pretty quickly.

Just the opposite for me. I find Sativa to generally lift my mood. I'm more likely to be social, carry on conversations and have interesting thoughts. Compared to Indica, which for me has more of a lazy effect. That may be great for serious pain management, but if I'm laid up my mind is more likely to go in different directions.

The mood lifting effects happen with sativa for me too. But if I happen to feel anxiety from it, it will be a short lived bit at the beginning.

Re: Cannabidiol in Anxiety and Sleep: A Large Case Series

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Post by sharadov » Wed, Jul 03, 2019, 4:58 AM UTC

gnulinux wrote: post #50

colordrops wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As others have mentioned, it's the THC component that can cause anxiety. I have high anxiety and THC usually makes it worse, but that's just temporary. I find that THC is bringing subconscious worries and pains to the surface, and if I actively process them, then I come out of the high feeling extreme relaxation and peace, more than I ever got from pure CBD.

Just a data point. I dealt with anxiety my entire life, and too much weed absolutely destroys me but small amount of weed definitely calms me down. When I smoke too much weed, it really doesn't feel like my anxieties deep down are surfaces. It feels like my brain is making up new stupid things. To me, weed is a very strong sensory experience. When I'm too high it almost feels I'm hearing too much, feeling too much, s…

You probably need to try a strain with less THC and more CBD (like a 2:8 ratio).

Re: Cannabidiol in Anxiety and Sleep: A Large Case Series

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Post by srik » Wed, Jul 03, 2019, 5:02 AM UTC

oblib wrote: post #62

I have some current experience with my adult daughter suffering with severe anxiety. I started looking for over the counter treatments and found studies that used magnesium glycinate successfully as a treatment and it has worked wonders for her. She takes a 300 mg tab and in 20 minutes she's completely calmed down. It only lasts for about four hours but the effect is amazing. The downside is it can cause diarrhea whe…

IANAD. The glycerinate does have a better absorption rate but and taking over 300mg a day regularly apparently has the potential for side effects (beside those bowel effects) - at least that's what I've gathered looking into Mg supplements previously.

Re: Cannabidiol in Anxiety and Sleep: A Large Case Series

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Post by sharadov » Wed, Jul 03, 2019, 5:05 AM UTC

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #23

spectramax wrote: post #6

Stupid question but I’ve always wondered this - I hear Cannabis is used for anxiety relief but doesn’t smoking marijuana induce anxiety? Everyone I know who has smoked weed agrees with my experience - they’ve encountered some level of anxiety and paranoia. So, how exactly does weed help in reducing anxiety? Edit: Follow up question -> Is weed used to treat anxiety during the high or when you are normal (and have gene…

In my experience, if I smoke a very small amount of weed (like literally one hit) it can relax me and make me less anxious. It slows things down, and can just generally numb some of my underlying anxieties. However, it doesn't take much for me to cross that threshold where it can make me extremely paranoid. Usually this is what I call the "will I be stuck this way forever" threshold, where I get stoned to the point w…

Depends on whether you are smoking a sativa or indica, and what kind of activity you are involved in? Are you smoking alone or in a group setting. If you are smoking alone and have an anxious personality, I would rather smoke a Sativa strain with a higher CBD to THC ratio. Indicas sometimes take me to an anxious place, but it depends on my mental state before taking the drug. So much of it is setting ( great music, good company ), can make it all the more better.

Re: Cannabidiol in Anxiety and Sleep: A Large Case Series

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Post by sharadov » Wed, Jul 03, 2019, 5:06 AM UTC

mmanfrin wrote: post #55

colordrops wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As others have mentioned, it's the THC component that can cause anxiety. I have high anxiety and THC usually makes it worse, but that's just temporary. I find that THC is bringing subconscious worries and pains to the surface, and if I actively process them, then I come out of the high feeling extreme relaxation and peace, more than I ever got from pure CBD.

This is a good way of putting it. I view THC as having an 'echoing' effect of whatever I am feeling. If something makes me laugh, the feeling of laughing will cause more laughter. If I am feeling anxiety, the feeling of anxiety will cause more anxiety.

That's absolutely true, weed is a big enhancer.

Re: Cannabidiol in Anxiety and Sleep: A Large Case Series

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Post by weerd » Wed, Jul 03, 2019, 5:12 AM UTC

spectramax wrote: post #6

Stupid question but I’ve always wondered this - I hear Cannabis is used for anxiety relief but doesn’t smoking marijuana induce anxiety? Everyone I know who has smoked weed agrees with my experience - they’ve encountered some level of anxiety and paranoia. So, how exactly does weed help in reducing anxiety? Edit: Follow up question -> Is weed used to treat anxiety during the high or when you are normal (and have gene…

A friend had an explanation for this, and I really agreed with him. The antianxiety effects of THC arrive after the initial high. The beginning is a spike of feelings that a lot of people find to be intense... and leads to paranoia and an increase in anxiety. But as this brief rush fades there is relief and a longer lasting calm.

To put it another way: after a stone is dropped in a pond the splash is a mess, but the ripples that follow sure are pretty. :)

Re: Cannabidiol in Anxiety and Sleep: A Large Case Series

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Post by goostavos » Wed, Jul 03, 2019, 5:21 AM UTC

ktaylora wrote: post #61

Probably need to repeat this study with 72 additional individuals treated with a placebo to compare against the cannabidiol group. My guess is that just thinking that you are doing something about your anxiety and sleep issues will result in decreased anxiety.

I'd agree. Brains are surprisingly complicated and dumb.

I carry around anxiety medication prescribed by my doc, but... just the effect of having something that someone tells me will prevent an all out panic is enough that I've never actually needed to take one. The magic isn't powerful enough to make the core problem go away, but it is pretty good at giving me another tool to control it.