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Microsoft explains the lack of Registry backups in Windows 10

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Re: Microsoft explains the lack of Registry backups in Windows 10

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Between the traditional Disk Cleanup and a quick DISM cleanup (which should already be running as a scheduled task) you can get pretty good results on any Windows 8.1/2012R2 and above: Dism.exe /online /Cleanup-Image /StartComponentCleanup /ResetBase

> quick DISM cleanup (which should already be running as a scheduled task) Is this a recommendation/suggestion of yours, or a default state?

Last I knew you had to set it up yourself.

Re: Microsoft explains the lack of Registry backups in Windows 10

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Do you have any examples?

John Siracusa used to write about this in his old OS X reviews… Apple would do weird things like make a dark title bar for Garage Band, then a title bar with vertical "traffic" lights in iTunes that wasn't used anywhere else, then a normal looking title bar that was just a few-pixels off in margin from the stock title bar… It's all kind of weird and silly, but nothing at all like Windows where you can suddenly jump i…

Unlike Windows, though, these were conscious decisions where applications decided to ditch platform controls and roll their own. Windows just has a dozen different UI frameworks that each do their own thing.

Re: Microsoft explains the lack of Registry backups in Windows 10

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Do you have any examples?

John Siracusa used to write about this in his old OS X reviews… Apple would do weird things like make a dark title bar for Garage Band, then a title bar with vertical "traffic" lights in iTunes that wasn't used anywhere else, then a normal looking title bar that was just a few-pixels off in margin from the stock title bar… It's all kind of weird and silly, but nothing at all like Windows where you can suddenly jump i…

I like to configure the Windows desktop to look like Windows 2000. It makes me feel 19 years younger!

Re: Microsoft explains the lack of Registry backups in Windows 10

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50-100MB seems like a miniscule amount of space to warrant something like this. My WinSxS folder alone is almost 10GB. If they wanted to save space, even a modest improvement in managing updates would yield space saving results orders of magnitude greater than this.

Yes but isolated registry backups make as much sense as a full backup of a modern Linux Desktop's /etc folder. Probably not much. The config's content depends a lot on the things installed and vice-versa, even more so on Windows (unless they changed something fundamentally since 7). At least on Linux and in particular Ubuntu (Desktop) installations I aim for as little manual configuration changes as possible anyways,…

Well, the backups of /etc on my home server helped me many times. I would advise anybody to do them.

Re: Microsoft explains the lack of Registry backups in Windows 10

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50-100MB seems like a miniscule amount of space to warrant something like this. My WinSxS folder alone is almost 10GB. If they wanted to save space, even a modest improvement in managing updates would yield space saving results orders of magnitude greater than this.

Marginal gains. 50MB here, 100MB there ... pretty soon you're talking real storage usage.

Some 10 of those and it makes some difference on a phone...

In how many places does Windows concentrate the settings for everything?

Re: Microsoft explains the lack of Registry backups in Windows 10

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It’s a skin on a skin on a skin on a skin. Its always been this way. By clicking on “advanced” buttons you can easily end up with four different eras of UI on the screen, including different system fonts and different font rendering algorithms! I can tell you first-hand from trying to get some of that fixed years ago, there’s just so much STUFF in Windows that is hardly ever seen, or should only be seen by “IT profes…

I would not mind the newer interface if it did not screw with half the settings I need.

I actually like the newer interface... when it isn't trying to take over my entire 32" screen to show me information that would have fit in a 2" square window, or doesn't bother exposing more than a quarter of the functionality you get with the older UIs.

Re: Microsoft explains the lack of Registry backups in Windows 10

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> The Control Panel isn't that deep. It really, really is.

This week in "HN looks at software that took thousands of devs 30 years to write and says 'eh I could've done that in a day!'"

They could rewrite it using electron?

Re: Microsoft explains the lack of Registry backups in Windows 10

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The Registry is the biggest architectural mistake in Windows - it's a great pity they haven't had the courage to remove it entirely.

The registry is a fantastic idea - it's a great pity software developers misused and screwed it up so badly, and a shame other OSs haven't copied it and built on it. Instead of every tool making its own incompatible, undocumented, non-standard config file/database/format/tools.

I think Apple solved this problem well with the .app application files. All application files and resources are self-contained. Drag the .app file to the Trash to completely remove it.

Some apps are non-conforming, and store data elsewhere, but as a general model I think it works very well.

Re: Microsoft explains the lack of Registry backups in Windows 10

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50-100MB seems like a miniscule amount of space to warrant something like this. My WinSxS folder alone is almost 10GB. If they wanted to save space, even a modest improvement in managing updates would yield space saving results orders of magnitude greater than this.

Agree on the 50-100MB being minuscule. I don't even provision a Windows VM without 60G worth of space due to how bad it is on cleaning itself up/bloat. I wasn't even able to install Windows 7 a few months ago due to the WinSxS folder continuously bloating to fill the disk (stock on a T440p - super weird issues). It's almost as if they broke new-install update cycles on Win7 on purpose =/ My question is why the hell w…

That sounds like something was seriously wrong with your install. I am on a desktop running windows 10 since its release on which I use daily and install a lot of software - and the windows folder is sitting at 12 GB.
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