Microsoft should do an Apple and build the Windows 13 on GNU/Linux.
I don't know if you're already aware of this, but macOS is not based on GNU/Linux. It is based on NeXTSTEP which was in turn based on a combination of Mach and BSD.
Microsoft developer reveals Linux is now more used on Azure than Windows Server
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Re: Microsoft developer reveals Linux is now more used on Azure than Windows Server
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Pull the boundaries in. Provide all of the enterprise services through the web. Provide hardened VMs for those services that can't be migrated. Suddenly your workstations are thin clients, and it doesn't really matter anymore if someone decides they want BYOD. Now you can get after the actual interesting problem of intellectual property theft and corporate espionage. Things which the firewalls of old did nothing to p…
It's naive to think that just because your production critical software is web based, you can just have everyone BYOD. That is asking for rampant malware on the company network, and targeted attacks that steals company secrets.
“The company network” is no different from the coffee shop WiFi next door, just has more bandwidth.
We still restrict web access to company managed machines but it’s a layer, not an essential boundary.
Re: Microsoft developer reveals Linux is now more used on Azure than Windows Server
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Stuff suddenly starting to work on reboot for Windows is getting old. I don't know what to use Windows servers for if it wasn't for a project that uses MetaTrader.
We have these old Windows admins now learning to work with Linux. What drives me insane is their habit of randomly rebooting machines if something isn't working right. There is a problem with a Linux box, they ask you to take a look at it, you SSH in, type "uptime"... bam, it's two and a half minutes. A lot of precious diagnostic information has been lost.
This Reboot-to-Fix mindset encroaches on other domains as well. My car had a weird issue when it would't pair to the phone, auto-technician: "reboot!" Someone here say that I'm probably a *nix admin vs a Windows user, and that's true, but every time I try to do adminsy things on a Windows box, the tools are just not there, or the interface to the tool is like controls in an alien spaceship. I find myself completely and hopelessly lost. Trying to find stderr, stdout, logging, grepping, finding, the tool to work with PKI certs, all fearsome in their inscrutability. Are there Windows kernel old-timers who can help me with the learning curve? No. Most Windows admins don't have a habit of digging deep because that's not the culture, because the tools weren't/aren't there. And reboot fixes most things on Windows.
Re: Microsoft developer reveals Linux is now more used on Azure than Windows Server
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I don't see a Linux version of Exchange or Active Directory yet. For internal email, it's pretty much Exchange or GTFO.
OpenLDAP, Postfix/Dovecot?
Not a fully integrated email and calendaring solution that can be set up and administrated by typical overworked corporate IT staff. Completely unacceptable.
Re: Microsoft developer reveals Linux is now more used on Azure than Windows Server
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> I don't care about the OSS vs Proprietary argument at all. I care about my productivity and job satisfaction. That's kind of like saying, "I don't care about voting, I just want politicians to represent me."
Arguing on the internet isn't analogous to voting. Voting accomplishes things, arguing about OSS Vs Proprietary just wastes time.
Well Oracle...is a counterexample to that argument.
Re: Microsoft developer reveals Linux is now more used on Azure than Windows Server
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Which problem space is that? For group policy part cfengine, salt, puppet are far better (group policy is just modifying windows registry and manipulating files although at first it seemes a bit like magic). For authentication we have kerberos, which Microsoft pulled in from the free world beginning with Windows 2000. Kerberos does not fly in the Cloud world though.
Have you ever actually done that - managed a large fleet of desktops and a productivity suite, all on Linux with no active directory? Complete with whatever the Kerberos equivalent of a backup DC is?
I would imagine that Google has and is doing that, as is AWS.
Re: Microsoft developer reveals Linux is now more used on Azure than Windows Server
#157Microsoft should do an Apple and build the Windows 13 on GNU/Linux.
I've said this before, but takes like this have it completely backwards. The NT kernel is really good, that part should stay. Win32 is the source of most of the shittiness that people have come to associate with Windows, it should be replaced with a Linux userspace... which is exactly what WSL does (or at least what WSL1 did, now things are a little different)
Re: Microsoft developer reveals Linux is now more used on Azure than Windows Server
#158I'm surprised it took this long. With Linux support for .NET and SQL Server, there is zero reason to host anything new on Windows now (of course legacy enterprise software is another story). I wouldn't be surprised if Windows Server is fully EOL'd in a few years.
I can understand that for many Mac OS users it's hard to understand Windows. When your OS vendor is requiring you to rewrite parts of your applications each year because of changing APIs it's impossible to imagine a world where applications from 1995 are still running on operating systems from 2019. Same.with security updates for only 3 years where Windows gives you over a decade time to upgrade. But when you are a m…
The comparison here is Linux, not macOS.
Re: Microsoft developer reveals Linux is now more used on Azure than Windows Server
#159Every few months we get another post like this, with a slightly different measure. Yes, lots of Azure workloads run Linux, and Microsoft makes it a priority. It's not news anymore. At the same time, Azure itself runs largely on Windows servers in Service Fabric ( https://github.com/Microsoft/service-fabric ), so it's hard to count. With nested hypervisors as the normal architecture nowadays, this whole tally is prett…
Which orchestrator are you referring to? System Center in no way competes with kubernetes since it's lacking 90% of the features. Maybe I'm bad at googling, but I can't find what you're referring to. Edit: I see the one you're referring to in that link, but again, it's not at all a comparison with kubernetes. It's easy at face value to say this one is better, but it's missing the point of kubernetes, which is extensi…
>following standards
What standards?
Re: Microsoft developer reveals Linux is now more used on Azure than Windows Server
#160Every few months we get another post like this, with a slightly different measure. Yes, lots of Azure workloads run Linux, and Microsoft makes it a priority. It's not news anymore. At the same time, Azure itself runs largely on Windows servers in Service Fabric ( https://github.com/Microsoft/service-fabric ), so it's hard to count. With nested hypervisors as the normal architecture nowadays, this whole tally is prett…
Which orchestrator are you referring to? System Center in no way competes with kubernetes since it's lacking 90% of the features. Maybe I'm bad at googling, but I can't find what you're referring to. Edit: I see the one you're referring to in that link, but again, it's not at all a comparison with kubernetes. It's easy at face value to say this one is better, but it's missing the point of kubernetes, which is extensi…
If you Google it you'll find several comparisons to k8s and others.
I looked into this a while back, and Service Fabric was a clear winner over k8s, and resource use was a fraction of k8s too.
But, I felt it needed to gain community traction before I could commit to using it - knowing my luck, I'd build something and Microsoft would abandon it because k8s...
Kind of a chicken and egg problem, which is a shame really.