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Microsoft explains the lack of Registry backups in Windows 10

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Re: Microsoft explains the lack of Registry backups in Windows 10

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Meanwhile, after the latest 1809, there were over 2GiB of update clutter not cleaned up automatically. It took two rounds of Disk Cleanup run manually to get rid of which took over an hour with laptop fans running on high the whole time. This was on a non-OEM, directly from microsoft.com, clean installation of Windows 10 Pro 1709. Windows updates are an abomination.

Re: Microsoft explains the lack of Registry backups in Windows 10

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Omitting automatic registry backups is a defensible policy. Telling the user that a backup was completed while a 0 byte file was saved is lying. Seems like a criminal act under the circumstances.

What crime in what country do you think this should fall under?

Re: Microsoft explains the lack of Registry backups in Windows 10

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I'm still on Windows 7 on a 2012 desktop. There's no reason for me to change. I've yet to run into any situation that has required me to upgrade. Since the world is generally web-first, the only thing that matters is Chrome and Firefox. Even running 4K video just required a codec upgrade as opposed to CPU upgrade. Yes there are security concerns but I'm pretty vigilant. I haven't run a virus scanner in 15 years, I'm…

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is how we get botnets.

Re: Microsoft explains the lack of Registry backups in Windows 10

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50-100MB seems like a miniscule amount of space to warrant something like this. My WinSxS folder alone is almost 10GB. If they wanted to save space, even a modest improvement in managing updates would yield space saving results orders of magnitude greater than this.

Agree on the 50-100MB being minuscule. I don't even provision a Windows VM without 60G worth of space due to how bad it is on cleaning itself up/bloat.

I wasn't even able to install Windows 7 a few months ago due to the WinSxS folder continuously bloating to fill the disk (stock on a T440p - super weird issues). It's almost as if they broke new-install update cycles on Win7 on purpose =/

My question is why the hell would they turn off a feature like this in the first place?! What is the actual "money making" motivation behind the decision?

Re: Microsoft explains the lack of Registry backups in Windows 10

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I'm still on Windows 7 on a 2012 desktop. There's no reason for me to change. I've yet to run into any situation that has required me to upgrade. Since the world is generally web-first, the only thing that matters is Chrome and Firefox. Even running 4K video just required a codec upgrade as opposed to CPU upgrade. Yes there are security concerns but I'm pretty vigilant. I haven't run a virus scanner in 15 years, I'm…

> I haven't run a virus scanner in 15 years, https://i.imgflip.com/34p4uf.jpg

I do run them occasionally, but haven't found anything on any Linux install I've ever had (except files I've actively quarantined from email to a) test virus checking and b) analyse for activity [deobfuscating js from Wordpress hacks is fun!]).

Re: Microsoft explains the lack of Registry backups in Windows 10

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post #5

50-100MB seems like a miniscule amount of space to warrant something like this. My WinSxS folder alone is almost 10GB. If they wanted to save space, even a modest improvement in managing updates would yield space saving results orders of magnitude greater than this.

Between the traditional Disk Cleanup and a quick DISM cleanup (which should already be running as a scheduled task) you can get pretty good results on any Windows 8.1/2012R2 and above: Dism.exe /online /Cleanup-Image /StartComponentCleanup /ResetBase

More info on what that does: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/manufactur...

Re: Microsoft explains the lack of Registry backups in Windows 10

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post #13

Omitting automatic registry backups is a defensible policy. Telling the user that a backup was completed while a 0 byte file was saved is lying. Seems like a criminal act under the circumstances.

What crime in what country do you think this should fall under?

It's a very minor fraud, if a product you purchase says it will do backups, but doesn't do them, then you were defrauded. I think you could sue for actual damages if you had them and be successful if it's in the documentation anywhere, or the system actively informed you that a backup was made. I'm in the UK, fwiw; I'd expect most English law systems to be broadly similar but IANAL.

Re: Microsoft explains the lack of Registry backups in Windows 10

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I'm still on Windows 7 on a 2012 desktop. There's no reason for me to change. I've yet to run into any situation that has required me to upgrade. Since the world is generally web-first, the only thing that matters is Chrome and Firefox. Even running 4K video just required a codec upgrade as opposed to CPU upgrade. Yes there are security concerns but I'm pretty vigilant. I haven't run a virus scanner in 15 years, I'm…

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is how we get botnets.

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is a great example of FUD.
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