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Microsoft developer reveals Linux is now more used on Azure than Windows Server

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Re: Microsoft developer reveals Linux is now more used on Azure than Windows Server

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This is a side note, maybe it's been covered before. Has anyone noticed that microsoft.com runs on Apache now? http://dpaste.com/3HTHQ96.txt

Why would they bother paying nginx the outrageous price for their server?

Re: Microsoft developer reveals Linux is now more used on Azure than Windows Server

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This is a side note, maybe it's been covered before. Has anyone noticed that microsoft.com runs on Apache now? http://dpaste.com/3HTHQ96.txt

Years ago, Microsoft used Akamai as their CDN. Akamai ran on Linux/Apache.

Don’t know if that’s still the case though.

Re: Microsoft developer reveals Linux is now more used on Azure than Windows Server

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Hosting SQL Server has been another common use case for Windows Server for a long time, though it can run on Linux too now.

Last I looked many of SQL server advanced features didn't work on Linux. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sql/linux/sql-server-linux-...

Right, like no Analysis & Reporting Services on Linux means if you're using it for BI, you're probably still running it on Windows.

Re: Microsoft developer reveals Linux is now more used on Azure than Windows Server

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This is a side note, maybe it's been covered before. Has anyone noticed that microsoft.com runs on Apache now? http://dpaste.com/3HTHQ96.txt

Why would they bother paying nginx the outrageous price for their server?

Or use iis

Re: Microsoft developer reveals Linux is now more used on Azure than Windows Server

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I wish MS would just create a Linux or BSD distro like Amazon Linux, ClearLinux, Darwin etc. to replace Windows Server outright...

> to replace Windows Server outright

Why would they be replacing a product that earns them money?

Re: Microsoft developer reveals Linux is now more used on Azure than Windows Server

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I see a lot of government shops picking Azure because nobody ever got fired for buying Microsoft. But once they open up to the cloud I see a lot of people installing stuff like Shiney servers, Jupytr notebooks and other open source software on Linux servers that would never have been a starter in an enterprise environment.

The government department standardizes on Azure but all the young devs push for Linux servers so all their shiny toys work great. Windows is truly dead on the cloud and has been for a decade. The only thing people use it for is self hosted exchange, and file servers and active domains - legacy stuff.

Everyone uses Active Directory because its basically the only functional solution for its problem space.

Re: Microsoft developer reveals Linux is now more used on Azure than Windows Server

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The government department standardizes on Azure but all the young devs push for Linux servers so all their shiny toys work great. Windows is truly dead on the cloud and has been for a decade. The only thing people use it for is self hosted exchange, and file servers and active domains - legacy stuff.

There is an entire parallel community of business IT, basically unknown and unintelligible to the Silicon Valley community, where the Microsoft server-side stack is as obvious a choice as Linux is in our world. You may even have some of it in your company. It's really amusing (and dysfunctional) when our projects require "Eng" and "Corp IT" to cooperate. We're both ostensibly computer professionals who select, write,…

I had a coworker who came from Facebook and told me similar stories.

We all hear about the exciting engineering projects and stories coming out of Facebook. But the IT side of their org is held together with various off the shelf enterprise products and Windows stuff.

Re: Microsoft developer reveals Linux is now more used on Azure than Windows Server

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Windows VMs in Azure are significantly more expensive than Linux VMs because Microsoft still charges for the licenses. Only if your organization has already purchased a lot of them it can use the Hybrid benefit to get similar, but still higher prices.

Seems like a bad strategy for Windows Server in the long run, but they may have decided that it is already dead.

Re: Microsoft developer reveals Linux is now more used on Azure than Windows Server

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>But the only justification for using it was really "IT made us do it". And I saw how the IT leadership in these places were older people perhaps maybe fighting older political battles. I've seen this happen too in predominantly Linux shops. In the early 2000s Microsoft worked hard to cultivate relationships with future IT leaders and those relationships have a way of enduring. Even if your CIO can't get everyone ont…

IT made them do it for good reasons though. Managing a large number of users and workstations in an enterprise environment is one of the things that Microsoft stack stands out.

Pull the boundaries in. Provide all of the enterprise services through the web. Provide hardened VMs for those services that can't be migrated. Suddenly your workstations are thin clients, and it doesn't really matter anymore if someone decides they want BYOD.

Now you can get after the actual interesting problem of intellectual property theft and corporate espionage. Things which the firewalls of old did nothing to prevent but provide a layer of obfuscation.

Re: Microsoft developer reveals Linux is now more used on Azure than Windows Server

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Why would they bother paying nginx the outrageous price for their server?

Or use iis

Or use Kestrel, which should be able to be front facing. It does very well with speed.
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