$499 AMD Ryzen 9 3900X Almost as Fast as $2000 Intel Core I9-9980XE

Post by chimpburger » Sat, Jun 29, 2019, 10:46 PM UTC

walshemj wrote: post #158

chimpburger wrote: post #138

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$17 billion is peanuts for Apple. However, Apple uses TSMC for fabrication and they are already at 7nm. No need to own fabs. AMD doesn't own fabs either. The Apple designed A12X Bionic processor contains 10 billion transistors and is already competitive with desktop processors from AMD and Intel. Do you think it would be that difficult for Apple to design a desktop or laptop version? They have more than enough money…

But it is the share holders peanuts - is a quixotic and expensive charge to over take AMD or Intel the best use of our money?

Post by [deleted] » Sat, Jun 29, 2019, 11:30 PM UTC

walshemj wrote: post #158

chimpburger wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

$17 billion is peanuts for Apple. However, Apple uses TSMC for fabrication and they are already at 7nm. No need to own fabs. AMD doesn't own fabs either. The Apple designed A12X Bionic processor contains 10 billion transistors and is already competitive with desktop processors from AMD and Intel. Do you think it would be that difficult for Apple to design a desktop or laptop version? They have more than enough money…

But it is the share holders peanuts - is a quixotic and expensive charge to over take AMD or Intel the best use of our money?

Post by chimpburger » Sat, Jun 29, 2019, 11:31 PM UTC

walshemj wrote: post #58

jandrese wrote: post #23

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Apple is probably going to switch to their own chips before they switch to AMD.

So from a recent standing start Apple are going to beat Intel and AMD - I could see Apple using their own cpu's for tablets and phones but for work stations I don't think so.

Post by MrMember » Sun, Jun 30, 2019, 3:54 AM UTC

sureste wrote: post #36

MrMember wrote: post #20

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I put a 2700X in my most recent desktop and a 2400G in my HTPC. For the price they can't be beat.

Are you gaming with the 2700X by chance? How is it?

Post by old-gregg » Mon, Jul 01, 2019, 9:26 PM UTC

butteroverflow wrote: post #147

old-gregg wrote: post #129

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Not true. Copy-pasting from my Ryzen terminal: $ spectre-meltdown-checker | grep "NOT VULNERABLE" | wc -l 12

So? The same script reports 11 lines on my 4 year old Haswell. It should read as "mitigated or not vulnerable" instead of simply "not vulnerable". Edit: oh wait, it's actually 12 lines, the same as on your system. The reason it reported 11 on the first run is because KPTI has been disabled manually here.

   $ sudo spectre-meltdown-checker | grep "Not affected" | wc -l


   On Skylake: 0
   On Ryzen  : 10