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By not helping the Chinese government.
“I have to kill you in order to save you” logic.
More like I have to kill you in order to save your children.
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The person’s comment is a reasonable, if low effort, comment. The exchange is “companies go to stable countries”, “no they go wherever short term profit leads”, and the comment says “Apple is too big not to think of long term stability”. Which is a point, even if it’s not substantiated. Even if it’s not true it’s a reasonable claim to reply with. Your question is a problem because it’s a fake-innocent question, with…
Yes. I wish I hadn't made the comment. I think it's just obvious that certain classes of products and companies that build them that have longer planning cycles Maybe rossdavidh's comment was reasonable in general. But with Apple you have a long term CEO under essentially no pressure for succession. You have product cycles that are going to push two years. You have supply chains that are going to involve dozens or mo…
While I am not suggesting that Tim Cook is in imminent danger, the idea that an Apple CEO does not have to worry about the board yanking him if the numbers go bad is, given Apple's history, in need of some defending.
Again, I'm not saying Tim Cook's in danger. But, if Steve Jobs can get fired from Apple, and several CEOs have, I don't know why we would expect that he is immune if Apple stops being profitable. Which, granted, it shows no signs of.
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> Macbook Pros have passed their peak As someone who has used a number of Mac(book)s for years, I agree with this general (or a vocal minority's) consensus. It's a beautiful machine: great OS, hardware integration is (mostly) top notch, and a lot of pro-grade hard/software for multimedia production are only available on the Mac. And yet, the 2013 Macbook Pro (maxed out beyond recommended specs) is the last Apple-buil…
>2013 Macbook Pro is the last Apple-built computer I will buy I had a 2013 and a 2015 at the same time (one for work, one personal) and the only difference was the Force Touch trackpad on the 2015. After using the 2013 for a while, I noticed my finger being sore, and I trace it back to trying to click anywhere (like the top of the trackpad) on the 2013 like I could on the 2015. It wouldn't work, so I'd push harder an…
MacBook models until around 2009 had a physical button at the bottom of their trackpads. Imagine that it's still there -- use your thumb to click, and your fingers for everything else. I'm pretty sure that's what Apple intended users to do (until they made tap-to-click the default recently).
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So the persons pointless comment is no problem but my question is? Why? The commenter does not give any sign to why the size may be relevant so the only special thing about the sentence is the name of the company. As if that may be enough to kill the long and descriptive comment above. The second answer by someone else followed up on this bait. At the topic of size: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20309140
The person’s comment is a reasonable, if low effort, comment. The exchange is “companies go to stable countries”, “no they go wherever short term profit leads”, and the comment says “Apple is too big not to think of long term stability”. Which is a point, even if it’s not substantiated. Even if it’s not true it’s a reasonable claim to reply with. Your question is a problem because it’s a fake-innocent question, with…
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How is that story demonstrably false? Can you point to an article that demonstrates that?
I've noticed some folks are unhappy with the term 'concentration camp' but academics and historians largely consider it historically accurate: https://www.newsweek.com/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-concentrat...
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#297I am not sure if this is a good move on Apple's part in the long term, both parties, Republicans & Democrats, have shown a lot of ire for China. I don't think this will go unpunished. But perhaps they believe that the Chinese market is vastly more valuable than the US and are willing to eat any cost the US may levy against it in the future. If I were them I'd have just moved it to Vietnam or India.
The main reason to manufacture in China isn't cost. It's far from the cheapest. It's supply chains. There's nowhere else that can compete.
Could you please link to any good self-contained material that covers the info on this advantage, for a layman like me? This sounds like a massive opportunity space.
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"USA steals a lot of stuff too. But of course the American press won't tell you about that. Or if they mention it, they will put phrase it like "America liberated the population of Irak " This is complete rubbish. The US is not in the business of industrial espionage for commercial purposes - either on a corporate or governmental level, where China is. Second - geopolitical issues have nothing to do with theft of IP,…
> The oil belongs to the people of Iraq. So they will soon be rich like the Saudis in the near future ? You are kidding right ? This is what your medias are telling you ? Do you know what lead to the refugee crisis and other IS* organizations in the middle east ? The Banana Republics in South America ? Why is Saudi a saint while other nations in middle east are bad actors ? The rhetoric on China sounds like sour grap…
>>> "You are kidding right ? "
No, I'm not kidding. The oil in Iraq is 100% under their control. America derives no wealth from Iraqi Oil.
If you want to learn something about it, read up [1]
Of course, some of it is independently controlled by Kurds, and some of it in hostile areas, but it has nothing to do with America.
Will they be rich like Saudis? No, because there isn't quite enough of it, it's in 'hot zones', they still have geopolitical instability making the system totally inefficient.
But again: it's Iraqi oil - not something 'stolen by America'.
Most of the Oil in Iraq is extracted by foreign companies, as I mentioned, a lot of it is extracted by local irregular entities - and the beneficiaries on the other side of the equation, i.e. the 'buyers' of the Oil is
>>> "Why is Saudi a saint"
Who said Saudi Arabia was a saint?
Basically - nobody is saying that.
Saudi Arabia makes headlines daily for their abuses. The US/UK/Canadian (and others) are under a lot of pressure as we speak to limit military sales.
What separates 'China' from 'Saudi Arabia' is the fact that one represents an existential concern, outside their borders, one does not.
China wants to rule that side of the world.
The 'House of Saud' is content to have it's little fiefdom. Of course, the Wahabbis are exporting an ideology, and money flows from Saudi into some not-so-good things, but that's not the House of Saud.
Osama Bin Laden's primary objective was to overthrow the Saudi gov. - the 'destroy America' thing comes much later.
The Saudi Arabian government a) actively works with other powers to track down terrorists b) has a de-facto kind of peace with Israel c) ensures that their Oil flows freely into global markets d) is not trying to overthrow Iran e) is not trying to steal industry and IP f) is not trying to build an army/navy to cause a lot of trouble far beyond their borders. (And Yemen FYI is on their border, it's a spillover problem)
Saudi Arabia is a 'decent state actor' with a lot of internal social problems we don't like.
China has become a hostile economic entity, and is becoming more so a military adversary with concerns about it's borders.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petroleum_industry_in_Iraq
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I couldn’t use it long enough to unlearn using the trackpad as a crutch. Thinkpad trackpads are pretty terrible by comparison. I also hated trying to use windows and didn’t want to keep maintaining a Linux install, though that might have gotten better lately. I am going to ride out my personal 2013 mbp until they fix the keyboards on the new machines. I have a new one at work, and each incremental fix still breaks af…
You could try an apple trackpad and a good keyboard alongside some other hardware.
An apple trackpad isn’t just the hardware, it’s also the software integration. Plus, who wants to carry around an external trackpad for their machine? I’ll just cope with avoiding the trackpad if I switch back.