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Money saved by firing experienced engs and outsourcing the development Why is that so hard to understand? Massive fail at risk management maybe?
Can't sell planes, or fly the ones that exist, and pay out huge untold sums in death lawsuits.
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> Still, for the 787, HCL gave Boeing a remarkable price – free, according to Sam Swaro, an associate vice president who pitched HCL’s services at a San Diego conference sponsored by Avionics International magazine in June. He said the company took no up-front payments on the 787 and only started collecting payments based on sales years later, an “innovative business model” he offered to extend to others in the indus…
How is that allowed? It is like basically the equivalent of dumping products below market and production price like what China frequently does to steel.
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> Still, for the 787, HCL gave Boeing a remarkable price – free, according to Sam Swaro, an associate vice president who pitched HCL’s services at a San Diego conference sponsored by Avionics International magazine in June. He said the company took no up-front payments on the 787 and only started collecting payments based on sales years later, an “innovative business model” he offered to extend to others in the indus…
How is that allowed? It is like basically the equivalent of dumping products below market and production price like what China frequently does to steel.
If the sentence was “the mean salary of $9/hr” then I would be thinking differently.
Whatever manager that was, should never be working in an aerospace context, where one design failure or fault can literally kill hundreds of people in minutes (and in this case, did exactly that).
Clearly, Boeing has become infested with people who literally do not understand the fundamental life-and-death consequences with which they are dealing, and who treat everything as fungible commodities. The entire story is essentially about how the outsourcing and commoditizing just expanded and expanded until now, when there were fatal consequences for the passengers, and perhaps even for the company (TBD).
Unless this changes, this is no longer a company who can be trusted with such life-and-death engineering decisions.
When is the media going to get the message that this wasn't a software issue?
Boeing is dead to me.
How in the world does one hire $9 an hour software engineers?
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Go to India?
That's usually the case, though in my experience from doing a bunch of re-writes of code outsourced to India - you really do get what you pay for.
As for code quality, this team was working on a Spring / Java application. They were instructed to use Spring JDBC templates instead of Hibernate. So of course they build their own query-builder that was just concatenating strings. Naturally we paid them to clean up their own mess.