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$499 AMD Ryzen 9 3900X Almost as Fast as $2000 Intel Core I9-9980XE

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Re: $499 AMD Ryzen 9 3900X Almost as Fast as $2000 Intel Core I9-9980XE

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Post by zamadatix »

esmi wrote: post #66

This is comparing an unreleased CPU to a two year old one. But more importantly, it gives no information on how the Intel CPU was configured and we have no idea what kind of memory it was paired with. It's just comparing two random user submissions. Here's another i9-9980XE where Intel scored 7700 in single core. https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/12111208

> This is comparing an unreleased CPU

It comes out in 10 days, does it really matter?

> to a two year old one.

The 9980XE launched Q4 2018, did you mean 2 quarter old? This also seems to imply Intel has something else better is due for release in the next year, there is nothing on the roadmap.

> It's just comparing two random user submissions. Here's another i9-9980XE where Intel scored 7700 in single core.

Because that's an extreme OC bench at +800 MHz and this was a stock run. Check the .gb4

Re: $499 AMD Ryzen 9 3900X Almost as Fast as $2000 Intel Core I9-9980XE

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Post by [deleted] »

esmi wrote: post #66

This is comparing an unreleased CPU to a two year old one. But more importantly, it gives no information on how the Intel CPU was configured and we have no idea what kind of memory it was paired with. It's just comparing two random user submissions. Here's another i9-9980XE where Intel scored 7700 in single core. https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/12111208

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Re: $499 AMD Ryzen 9 3900X Almost as Fast as $2000 Intel Core I9-9980XE

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Post by zamadatix »

colechristensen wrote: post #13

Any independent verification here or runs of different test suites? There are many ways to put your finger on the scale for this kind of test (say, inadequate cooling on the intel part) Or could it be PCI-E 4.0 significantly increasing the performance?

Official reviews are embargoed until the 7th. PCIe 4.0 doesn't change anything for a CPU/Memory benchmark.

Re: $499 AMD Ryzen 9 3900X Almost as Fast as $2000 Intel Core I9-9980XE

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Post by vkaku »

esmi wrote: post #66

This is comparing an unreleased CPU to a two year old one. But more importantly, it gives no information on how the Intel CPU was configured and we have no idea what kind of memory it was paired with. It's just comparing two random user submissions. Here's another i9-9980XE where Intel scored 7700 in single core. https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/12111208

The deal is that Intel is still trying to sell expensive CPUs and there's no reason for a customer to be buying them - they could be putting that money into other components - or using it for something else.

Re: $499 AMD Ryzen 9 3900X Almost as Fast as $2000 Intel Core I9-9980XE

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Post by devonkim »

travbrack wrote: post #53
tapirl wrote: post #34

I just assembled a new computer: amd 2200g ($90) + MSI B450M MORTAR ($90) + Intel 512GB SSD M.2 ($68) + 4 x 16G 2666 memory (4 x $72). I installed the debian testing system. After the installation, X hung at starting up. But after installing amdgpu driver by following this tutorial: https://wiki.debian.org/How%20to%20install%20official%20AMDG... , it works like a charming now.

I had to double check your price on the SSD. When did SSDs get so cheap??

SSDs were held up in prices artificially for a while related to the memory price inflation that happened throughout 2018 and some of 2017. QLC was mentioned but prices are down across the board and everything in consumer land is down sharply YoY from that period (50%+ discount is fair). I’d expect some price increases coming up due to investor pressure for revenue.

Re: $499 AMD Ryzen 9 3900X Almost as Fast as $2000 Intel Core I9-9980XE

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Post by vkaku »

sureste wrote: post #36
MrMember wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I put a 2700X in my most recent desktop and a 2400G in my HTPC. For the price they can't be beat.

Are you gaming with the 2700X by chance? How is it?

I am doing that. I can play most games very well, including Battlefield, even though it isn't optimized for more than 6 overall threads. Never had a real issue so far.

Re: $499 AMD Ryzen 9 3900X Almost as Fast as $2000 Intel Core I9-9980XE

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Post by zamadatix »

fortran77 wrote: post #47

_almost_. We always pay dearly for that last few points of performance! (Intel is 4% better, comparing the multi-core number)

In September the stars should align when the 16 core part drops (4 more cores) for still less than half the price of the 9980XE.

Re: $499 AMD Ryzen 9 3900X Almost as Fast as $2000 Intel Core I9-9980XE

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Post by WrtCdEvrydy »

iaml wrote: post #59
sureste wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you gaming with the 2700X by chance? How is it?

Not GP, but gaming on 2700x+1070ti w/ 144hz 1440p monitor. It's suboptimal, but usually I can play games on high/ultra settings ~60fps or full 144 on low-medium. Not having any problems with VR either.

> 1070ti

LOL, cries in RX580 at 60hz on 1080p.

Re: $499 AMD Ryzen 9 3900X Almost as Fast as $2000 Intel Core I9-9980XE

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Post by madlynormal »

sureste wrote: post #36
MrMember wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I put a 2700X in my most recent desktop and a 2400G in my HTPC. For the price they can't be beat.

Are you gaming with the 2700X by chance? How is it?

I game with a 2600x / 2080ti @ 1440p/165hz, on average I see 150 FPS in Apex Legends. Not an optimal setup, but not too shabby either. Planning on upgrading to the 3900x once it's released.

Re: $499 AMD Ryzen 9 3900X Almost as Fast as $2000 Intel Core I9-9980XE

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Post by mrb »

holy_city wrote: post #51

Take with a grain of salt. Comparing a single benchmark against an aggregate isn't particularly meaningful (although getting within a stone's throw definitely is). You can go through and cherry pick benchmarks and find plenty that obliterate that measurement. Better article title would be, "3900x appears comparable to 9980XE in single threaded workloads."

Calling Geekbench a "single benchmark" is misleading because it runs 25 different types of workloads. So AMD doing well here means it does well compared to Intel in 25 different areas when they are all averaged:

  • Cryptography Workloads
  - AES
  • Integer Workloads
  - LZMA Compression
  - JPEG Compression
  - Canny
  - Lua
  - Dijkstra
  - SQLite
  - HTML 5 Parse
  - HTML 5 DOM
  - Histogram Equalization
  - PDF Rendering
  - LLVM
  - Camera
  • Floating Point Workloads
  - SGEMM
  - SFFT
  - N-Body Physics
  - Ray Tracing
  - Rigid Body Physics
  - HDR
  - Gaussian Blur
  - Speech Recognition
  - Face Detection
  • Memory Workloads
  - Memory Copy
  - Memory Latency
  - Memory Bandwidth
Source: https://www.geekbench.com/doc/geekbench4-cpu-workloads.pdf
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