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Better article title would be, "3900x appears comparable to 9980XE in single threaded workloads."
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Is the socket really zero insertion force? I've always been planning on buying an AMD CPU after dealing with an Intel processor.
Yes. I remember my 1800X making a "thunk" sound[0] when it dropped into the socket. It requires as much insertion force as water into a cup. [0] https://youtu.be/QdNISYm0w-U?t=756
Had a false impression from all the PC part guides that somehow each were equal difficulty.
I just assembled a new computer: amd 2200g ($90) + MSI B450M MORTAR ($90) + Intel 512GB SSD M.2 ($68) + 4 x 16G 2666 memory (4 x $72). I installed the debian testing system. After the installation, X hung at starting up. But after installing amdgpu driver by following this tutorial: https://wiki.debian.org/How%20to%20install%20official%20AMDG... , it works like a charming now.
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Yes. I remember my 1800X making a "thunk" sound[0] when it dropped into the socket. It requires as much insertion force as water into a cup. [0] https://youtu.be/QdNISYm0w-U?t=756
If AMD advertised that their CPUs can be installed gingerly as opposed to Intel which felt like thirty pounds of pressure was required, then I would have opted for the older, but AMD chip. Had a false impression from all the PC part guides that somehow each were equal difficulty.
Aside: at least new CPUs have heatspreaders. The first heatsink I installed was on an Athlon XP 2500+. Those things had the bare die exposed! Do it wrong the first time, and you had an expensive tiny brick.
I just assembled a new computer: amd 2200g ($90) + MSI B450M MORTAR ($90) + Intel 512GB SSD M.2 ($68) + 4 x 16G 2666 memory (4 x $72). I installed the debian testing system. After the installation, X hung at starting up. But after installing amdgpu driver by following this tutorial: https://wiki.debian.org/How%20to%20install%20official%20AMDG... , it works like a charming now.
I had to double check your price on the SSD. When did SSDs get so cheap??
Take with a grain of salt. Comparing a single benchmark against an aggregate isn't particularly meaningful (although getting within a stone's throw definitely is). You can go through and cherry pick benchmarks and find plenty that obliterate that measurement. Better article title would be, "3900x appears comparable to 9980XE in single threaded workloads."
Out of curiosity, has anybody had anything in the AMD Ryzen instruction set missing that required you to purchase an Intel 9xxx instead? Any significant differences in regards to scientific applications or machine learning?
I'm considering Intel for my next workstation because I want to be able to run macOS at least in VirtualBox (or just run Hackintosh, did not decide yet). For some reason macOS does not like AMD CPUs.
Any chance Apple will ever consider AMD chips for the MacBook Pro or any of their computers. I have to wonder how much of the $4k+ I just spent on my MacBook Pro went to pay for the Intel 8-core CPU...
Apple is probably going to switch to their own chips before they switch to AMD.
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I put a 2700X in my most recent desktop and a 2400G in my HTPC. For the price they can't be beat.
Are you gaming with the 2700X by chance? How is it?
Take with a grain of salt. Comparing a single benchmark against an aggregate isn't particularly meaningful (although getting within a stone's throw definitely is). You can go through and cherry pick benchmarks and find plenty that obliterate that measurement. Better article title would be, "3900x appears comparable to 9980XE in single threaded workloads."
Single-threaded is the only thing Intel's been touting as they get steamrolled. This is particularly important because a big market for this class of CPU is desktop gamers and for better or worse games tend not to be particularly well multi-threaded so single-core performance is king in that market. Obviously this will change over time as engines continue to adapt.
To your point though it's better to look at an overall trend of AMD vs Intel over the last couple of years, and that's equally devastating.