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$499 AMD Ryzen 9 3900X Almost as Fast as $2000 Intel Core I9-9980XE

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Re: $499 AMD Ryzen 9 3900X Almost as Fast as $2000 Intel Core I9-9980XE

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My next CPU will be an AMD.

I bought a Ryzen 7 1700X and have been running Ubuntu on it for over a month now. It's insanely fast. (32 GB Ram, 1 TB Samsung EVO 970 nvme, Radeon 580)... I've even been able to overclock it some (3.4Ghz base speed -> 3.77 Ghz). Although I added some additional cooling and I think I could reasonably get 4Ghz out of it.

I miss several of my core daily-driving Mac apps (Querious, MailMate, and Messages) but for ~$1,300... it's hard to beat!

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Any chance Apple will ever consider AMD chips for the MacBook Pro or any of their computers. I have to wonder how much of the $4k+ I just spent on my MacBook Pro went to pay for the Intel 8-core CPU...

Its unlikely and I wouldn't hold your breath. If Apple eventually move to their own CPUs (same as what they use for iPhone/iPad etc) then they'll spend time working on that instead. If it means sticking with Intel for another 2 years or whatever until its ready then its worth it for them. Switching to AMD wouldn't make sense if its only short-term and not in their endgame.

Do you think Apple was "dumb" to "fragment" their OS market even further?

I know they are working on getting apps running on iOS + Mac OS by using the same APIs/libraries, but now iPad OS is a third instance of what I'm guessing is mostly the same kernel / libraries?

Re: $499 AMD Ryzen 9 3900X Almost as Fast as $2000 Intel Core I9-9980XE

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Any chance Apple will ever consider AMD chips for the MacBook Pro or any of their computers. I have to wonder how much of the $4k+ I just spent on my MacBook Pro went to pay for the Intel 8-core CPU...

Apple is probably going to switch to their own chips before they switch to AMD.

Re: $499 AMD Ryzen 9 3900X Almost as Fast as $2000 Intel Core I9-9980XE

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My next CPU will be an AMD.

I bought a Ryzen 7 1700X and have been running Ubuntu on it for over a month now. It's insanely fast. (32 GB Ram, 1 TB Samsung EVO 970 nvme, Radeon 580)... I've even been able to overclock it some (3.4Ghz base speed -> 3.77 Ghz). Although I added some additional cooling and I think I could reasonably get 4Ghz out of it. I miss several of my core daily-driving Mac apps (Querious, MailMate, and Messages) but for ~$1,30…

You can run Mac under AMD (compatibility's not too bad now)

Re: $499 AMD Ryzen 9 3900X Almost as Fast as $2000 Intel Core I9-9980XE

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its unlikely and I wouldn't hold your breath. If Apple eventually move to their own CPUs (same as what they use for iPhone/iPad etc) then they'll spend time working on that instead. If it means sticking with Intel for another 2 years or whatever until its ready then its worth it for them. Switching to AMD wouldn't make sense if its only short-term and not in their endgame.

Do you think Apple was "dumb" to "fragment" their OS market even further? I know they are working on getting apps running on iOS + Mac OS by using the same APIs/libraries, but now iPad OS is a third instance of what I'm guessing is mostly the same kernel / libraries?

eh, I think it is fine, maybe even necessary.

iOS was looking a bit odd with the release of iPhone X as you now started having splintering at least initially (I'm not sure when it happened, but my older iPad started getting iPhone X-esque swipe down gestures for command center and notifications which was a nice touch). iPadOS looks to be iOS with extra add in features and it was kind of needed if they're going for the PC replacement angle now. I'm glad that my new iPad is getting (has, via beta) mouse support. I don't see any value in my iPhone X having it though (unless there were some kind of meaningful reason for docking), so it'd seem to be bloat at that point.

Re: $499 AMD Ryzen 9 3900X Almost as Fast as $2000 Intel Core I9-9980XE

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Any chance Apple will ever consider AMD chips for the MacBook Pro or any of their computers. I have to wonder how much of the $4k+ I just spent on my MacBook Pro went to pay for the Intel 8-core CPU...

The Ryzen mobile CPUs are quite far behind Intel's offerings at the moment - they're manufactured on a 12 nm process and use the Zen+ uarch, instead of 7 nm/Zen 2 the new desktop chips use.

They have the advantage in GPU performance, but Ice Lake chips are coming in the next couple of months and they should slightly surpass the performance of the Vega GPUs, plus the CPU itself should perform quite a bit better, at least in terms of raw IPC.

Re: $499 AMD Ryzen 9 3900X Almost as Fast as $2000 Intel Core I9-9980XE

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I bought a Ryzen 7 1700X and have been running Ubuntu on it for over a month now. It's insanely fast. (32 GB Ram, 1 TB Samsung EVO 970 nvme, Radeon 580)... I've even been able to overclock it some (3.4Ghz base speed -> 3.77 Ghz). Although I added some additional cooling and I think I could reasonably get 4Ghz out of it. I miss several of my core daily-driving Mac apps (Querious, MailMate, and Messages) but for ~$1,30…

You can run Mac under AMD (compatibility's not too bad now)

This requires a custom kernel though. I wouldn’t reccomend that route for a Hackintosh system.

Re: $499 AMD Ryzen 9 3900X Almost as Fast as $2000 Intel Core I9-9980XE

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Out of curiosity, has anybody had anything in the AMD Ryzen instruction set missing that required you to purchase an Intel 9xxx instead? Any significant differences in regards to scientific applications or machine learning?

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Re: $499 AMD Ryzen 9 3900X Almost as Fast as $2000 Intel Core I9-9980XE

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you think Apple was "dumb" to "fragment" their OS market even further? I know they are working on getting apps running on iOS + Mac OS by using the same APIs/libraries, but now iPad OS is a third instance of what I'm guessing is mostly the same kernel / libraries?

eh, I think it is fine, maybe even necessary. iOS was looking a bit odd with the release of iPhone X as you now started having splintering at least initially (I'm not sure when it happened, but my older iPad started getting iPhone X-esque swipe down gestures for command center and notifications which was a nice touch). iPadOS looks to be iOS with extra add in features and it was kind of needed if they're going for th…

I thought both iPhone and iPad had mouse support now? And, it’s tucked away in the accessibility menu, so clearly not intended for general use, at least for now.
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