This looks like an attempt to hijack the cred of a Nobel prize winner for the benefit of pushing the agenda of one "Free Market Institute" based at Texas Tech, in Lubbock Texas, the heart of Texas oil country. I would take everything in this article with a large grain of salt. Especially the characterization of positive steps toward addressing climate change as "mitigations" -- one person's mitigation is another pers…
Read the article (or don't) and assail its contents (or don't). Ad hominem is fundamentally unproductive.
Nobel Prize Winner William Nordhaus vs. the IPCC on Climate Change
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Re: Nobel Prize Winner William Nordhaus vs. the IPCC on Climate Change
#12Earlier quoted context omitted.
Read the article (or don't) and assail its contents (or don't). Ad hominem is fundamentally unproductive.
I don't think pointing out the biased nature of the source is an ad-hominem. It's pretty standard critical analysis.
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#131993 chemistry prize winner Kary Mullis supported AIDS denialists and expressed an interest in astrology: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kary_Mullis#Personal_views
Re: Nobel Prize Winner William Nordhaus vs. the IPCC on Climate Change
#14Having won the Nobel Prize doesn't necessarily mean someone holds reasonable views in fields outside their immediate speciality. 1993 chemistry prize winner Kary Mullis supported AIDS denialists and expressed an interest in astrology: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kary_Mullis#Personal_views
Re: Nobel Prize Winner William Nordhaus vs. the IPCC on Climate Change
#15This looks like an attempt to hijack the cred of a Nobel prize winner for the benefit of pushing the agenda of one "Free Market Institute" based at Texas Tech, in Lubbock Texas, the heart of Texas oil country. I would take everything in this article with a large grain of salt. Especially the characterization of positive steps toward addressing climate change as "mitigations" -- one person's mitigation is another pers…
Read the article (or don't) and assail its contents (or don't). Ad hominem is fundamentally unproductive.
I'm not an expert on this subject, but here are some thoughts I have.
> Both fans and critics of William Nordhaus’s computer model of the global economy and climate acknowledge that it is a crude approach that omits many crucial real-world considerations.
Does it factor in the famine and wars that will result from global warming?
> As Table 1 indicates, Nordhaus’s model—at least as of its 2007 calibration—estimated that such a policy goal would make humanity $14 trillion poorer compared to doing nothing at all about climate change.
I find this claim the most interesting, because the estimate is that humanity will be much poorer if we do something about climate change. The question is, what will be the distribution of these new riches? Who will be more poor, and who will be more rich? Do the poor starve and die (in say South America and Africa) while the rich make more money?
Do ten oil companies throughout the world get richer while everyone else gets poorer, or maybe even no change? This seems like a plausible outcome too. If the cost of producing food goes up dramatically, only those who are making dramatically more money will be richer.
Re: Nobel Prize Winner William Nordhaus vs. the IPCC on Climate Change
#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think pointing out the biased nature of the source is an ad-hominem. It's pretty standard critical analysis.
That's literally what ad hominem means...
Ad hominem refers to dismissing an argument out of hand based on the source. In this case, people are willing to engage with the argument, but are additionally pointing out the bias inherent in the source. This is not ad hominem, just a bias warning.
Re: Nobel Prize Winner William Nordhaus vs. the IPCC on Climate Change
#17You may have to put a dollar value on that sort of stuff to do economic calculations, but you have to recognize that's what you're doing.
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#18How do you put a dollar cost on mass-extinction? It's ludicrous to even try.
Re: Nobel Prize Winner William Nordhaus vs. the IPCC on Climate Change
#19This looks like an attempt to hijack the cred of a Nobel prize winner for the benefit of pushing the agenda of one "Free Market Institute" based at Texas Tech, in Lubbock Texas, the heart of Texas oil country. I would take everything in this article with a large grain of salt. Especially the characterization of positive steps toward addressing climate change as "mitigations" -- one person's mitigation is another pers…
Re: Nobel Prize Winner William Nordhaus vs. the IPCC on Climate Change
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's literally what ad hominem means...
This is false. Ad hominem refers to dismissing an argument out of hand based on the source. In this case, people are willing to engage with the argument, but are additionally pointing out the bias inherent in the source. This is not ad hominem, just a bias warning.
Ad hominem isn't always irrelevant, but questioning a source's motivation instead of responding to the arguments they make seems to be ad hominem.