This is not good.
The article reveals that the people working the Mac Pro assembly line in Texas where paid the minimum wage which in Texas is currently $7.25 an hour. When the plant closes, those guys can apply to any fast food place in Austin, and make the same money.
Apple Moves Mac Pro Production to China
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#93For years I've been very happy, productive, and at times stubbornly loyal on my Linux / Lenovo setup, but it seems that so many of my colleagues have embraced Mac that it's gotten harder and harder to not be on the bandwagon. I recently hit the point of deciding maybe I should just have a Mac, but I seem to have done so after Macbook Pros have passed their peak. I don't follow consumer hardware trends much, so what d…
As someone who has used a number of Mac(book)s for years, I agree with this general (or a vocal minority's) consensus.
It's a beautiful machine: great OS, hardware integration is (mostly) top notch, and a lot of pro-grade hard/software for multimedia production are only available on the Mac.
And yet, the 2013 Macbook Pro (maxed out beyond recommended specs) is the last Apple-built computer I will buy. I recently built myself a PC that dual-boots macOS and Linux, and am looking at Thinkpads for my next laptop.
I don't know if "the tide" is moving to Linux, but at least I am, and being the most computer-savvy person in my social circle, I'm recommending everyone I know to not buy a Mac/book. It's probably the best computer in the market for that form factor, but the company has given the users too many reasons to move away.
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#94Well I was not going to buy one, the price jump from the previous Pro was not something I or many expected or appreciated. I will get on my soap box again. Apple needs to be out of China, not moving more manufacturing to that country. What will it take to get Apple to stand up for the rights of the oppressed in China or are they that wrapped up in dollars they no longer see the people component? For a country which s…
> They stand for rights and privacy only when it does not interfere with their revenue stream . I understand the sentiment, but it's a nonstarter. A company that prioritizes human rights at the expense of profit, is a company that has no chance of survival in our political or economic environment, regardless of whether it's in China or the US. The corporate incentives are not fully aligned with the long term interest…
In fact, I think it would be very difficult to name even 30 companies in Forbes Top 100 list that someone would be hard pressed to find no examples of running afoul of basic human rights.
EDIT: I haven't been downvoted or anything, but after rereading my post, it sounded a bit forward. Not attacking you personally, I just found this to be an alarmingly weak argument.
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#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
The article reveals that the people working the Mac Pro assembly line in Texas where paid the minimum wage which in Texas is currently $7.25 an hour. When the plant closes, those guys can apply to any fast food place in Austin, and make the same money.
So if they have 5000 people working there, 5000 people will be looking for those "McJobs". Many of them won't find another job, or at least not quick enough to provide food on the table.
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#96Back in the day, my international economics professor told me corporations will set up, and base their business out of the countries that they see as the most stable. Because of this, it scares me when I see headlines like this, even though it is only production. If anyone has a counterpoint to what he said, I am very interested in hearing it
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> And instead pay for one off the shelf If a state actor is sufficiently motivated, even in a physical purchase, your computer will just get switched out for a bugged one at the cashier. Common OPSEC practice re: buying hardware (or anything you don’t want your name associated with, really), is to pay an unaffiliated proxy to buy it for you.
>your computer will just get switched out for a bugged one at the cashier. I doubt it. How would they swap it in time if you drove to a random Best buy, picked out a laptop (I think they still keep them in locked cages on the show floor), and kept eyes on it until checkout? Nevermind that they'll need surveillance on you 24/7 and have the exact model ready to go (or be able to plant the bug within minutes) to pull th…
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In professional environments the price of a computer is so minimal it doesn’t really matter. If someone is being paid even $100K a year then the extra $4,000 for a computer they’ll have for probably 4 years is a rounding error.
Have that attitude about your purchases for 10 years, wasting at least $4000 a year, and you've wasted $40000. That's significant even if you do make $100k.
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In professional environments the price of a computer is so minimal it doesn’t really matter. If someone is being paid even $100K a year then the extra $4,000 for a computer they’ll have for probably 4 years is a rounding error.
Have that attitude about your purchases for 10 years, wasting at least $4000 a year, and you've wasted $40000. That's significant even if you do make $100k.
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Have you been following what China does to entire population groups that threaten their stability? Name one country that is more stable for mass production than China? Its just not the leafy vision of stability you had in mind.
Desperately trying to keep stability isn't evidence of stability, it's evidence that the leadership thinks they aren't stable.
All governments work towards stability in their own ways. I don't see desperation in Chinese strategy, but I do see a lot of energy.