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Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by tapland »

coldtea wrote: post #516
tapland wrote: post #510

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This is a very weird way of viewing the issue. The space is physically there, but because the size of the phone is ok anyway experience-wise it seems to be an extra feature?

> This is a very weird way of viewing the issue. It's very weird to call it an issue as well. I remember what kind of phones we had until 2007. I've used infuriating devices from Android vendors as well. The notch is not even a first world problem....

Well it can be called an issue. I wouldn't call it a problem though.

What we are trying to solve is: We need more than just screen on the front of the phone, how do we solve this?

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by driverdan »

Alexx wrote: post #578
pentae wrote: post #461

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I'm calling it - USB-A will still be around going strong 10 years from now. Take a stroll through a BIC Camera in Tokyo. How many USB-A accessories are still for sale? It's about 99% of the stock. I'm sure it's the same at a Best Buy in the US. Apple and the fanboys calling it a "Legacy" port are completely out of touch with reality.

Best Buy has an inventory turnover ratio of approximately 6* - So clears its entire stock on average every 8 weeks. While there might be a large percentage of USB-A products currently, once a technology market shifts it's quite surprising how fast suppliers will also change their product supply and you see a fairly rapid change in stock even in big box stores. Most of the devices I have purchased in the last year hav…

> Sony headphones

Why would headphones have a USB port? BT headphones that need it for charging?

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by 7Z7 »

chrisweekly wrote: post #625
MrGilbert wrote: post #581

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On iOS? Nothing, 'cause there is no such thing. The "status bar" shows the battery indicator, the signal strength, and wether you are on cellular or wifi. On the left, you've got the name of the carrier you are currently using, whos text is scrolling. If it's unlocked, it shows the current time and if GPS is enabled. That's it.

>"there is no such thing" Huh? iOS 12, iPhone X, swipe from top-right to reveal: Carrier, VPN status, Battery life as a numeric % ... none of which appear in the notch-level "ears". Which is fine (tho were it up to me, I'd prefer VPN status somehow integrated w/ signal strength indicators for cell & wifi).

I'm confused. The carrier, time, battery life, etc, are in the notch ears..

https://i.redd.it/1es9glox9t601.jpg

Maybe I'm misunderstanding you?

edit: that was a genuine question

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by 7Z7 »

sgc wrote: post #615
simonh wrote: post #521

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And if you have no interest in Face ID that's reasonable preference.

Are you saying face ID is so fragile moving the camera 1 inch or less than an inch to the right kills all functionality? You manage to line your phone up so precisely each time you use it?

But it isn't just a camera, its an array of stuff

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by leadingthenet »

abakker wrote: post #201
TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #56

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It's not minimalism, it's poor minimalism. IMO Watch is just plain unattractive as a design object. Tinkering with the crown colour or the strap choices hasn't changed that. I keep waiting for it to be refined, so far not. I'm also not sold on the new(ish) font and flat UI style. They work, more or less, but there's something very bland about them. The big hits were game changers and were anything but bland - the ori…

I tend to agree with you - at some point the whole "take everything away that you can do without" became "do without". my MacBook pro is great, but I would love more ports. I don't care as much about weight, I'd happily do with more battery, and more keyboard travel. Generally, when I think of "Pro" I'm thinking of more features, not just the same features but more powerful. I would think that pros actually have diff…

> I would think that pros actually have different needs, and that their tools would have different functions to suit.

I would argue that the new Mac Pro is definitely a step in that direction.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by driverdan »

reaperducer wrote: post #366
jedberg wrote: post #102

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Nothing wrong with USB-C and the big trackpad is fine too, and I would love to have touchID on my 2015MBP. But getting rid of mag power and the USB-A ports, HDMI port, and SD card slot was a big step back. Maybe you don't ever need to present anything from your laptop, but if you talk to anyone who does, they will tell you how awful it is to not have an HDMI port. The USB-C to HDMI is the worst adapter I've ever seen…

how awful it is to not have an HDMI port Seriously not awful at all. When I do presentations in my department's conference room, I just AirPlay to the AppleTV connected to the projector. It was a great solution because it allows anyone on the team to do presentations. All they have to do is mirror their screen and bring their mouse or trackpad into the conference room. It's been a godsend. If I have to do presentatio…

AirPlay is great unless it isn't. It would often not work correctly in my last office. There was something about the network that caused it to drop, freeze, or refuse to connect. When possible we'd use HDMI instead of fighting with it.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by DocTomoe »

yoz-y wrote: post #602
sytelus wrote: post #310

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Personally, I think focus should be on battery life improvement, app management UX, privacy (for example, to this day I can't turn off ALL notifications) etc. I would take 20% thicker iPhone for 20% better battery life and headphone jack any day. Cosmetic changes and thinness-for-thinness sake are worthless.

You would but vast majority of Apple customers would not. There are often calls to "vote with your wallet" and that's what people do. This is why we have no jack and thin phones.

Given that Apple doesn't offer superior phones (with better battery life and headphone jacks), voting with your wallets essentially comes down to getting a Apple one or a non-Apple one.

In other news, the iPhone's market share is dropping like a stone. http://fortune.com/2019/02/21/apple-iphone-sales-2018/

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by coldtea »

tapland wrote: post #631
coldtea wrote: post #516

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> This is a very weird way of viewing the issue. It's very weird to call it an issue as well. I remember what kind of phones we had until 2007. I've used infuriating devices from Android vendors as well. The notch is not even a first world problem....

Well it can be called an issue. I wouldn't call it a problem though. What we are trying to solve is: We need more than just screen on the front of the phone, how do we solve this?

By having more than just screen? We need a camera, let's have a camera.

"We need more than just screen but don't want to have it visible" is an annoyance at best, not a problem we should be focusing on.

Even design wise, there are several more severe problems with iPhones they could concentrate on...

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by swish_bob »

afandian wrote: post #582
mstade wrote: post #94

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It’d be interesting to see the results of a survey on this I think, I and I know many of my peers are of the exact opposite opinion. I like the move to usb-c, I like the new keyboard, I don’t mind (but also don’t really use) the Touch Bar but I can’t live without Touch ID at this point. The big trackpad is magical to me, and the thickness and weight of the 13” is just right. I have an older MBP as well, 2013 maybe, a…

I hope you _can_ live without the Touch ID! I did some manual work last weekend and now my fingerprints don't work.

I cut my finger quite badly a couple of weeks ago. Being unable to just switch my phone on as I picked it up was a whole world of annoying. It's surprising just how quickly we take these things for granted.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by PedroBatista »

csomar wrote: post #630

Another possibility: Apple can’t pay him a big salary without a huge IRS tax. With a sole company, he’ll be able to invest his earnings into the company as well as deduct several of the expenses. Significantly reducing his tax rate.

I think Apple CAN spare a penny or 2 to pay his salary..

It's more a divorce/open relationship Cosmopolitan style.

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