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Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by _pmf_ »

kylec wrote: post #65
empath75 wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would guess he is going to continue to be in charge of design for their flagship products for the foreseeable future.

No way, he's done, the part about him "consulting" is just a way to reassure the public that the split was amicable.

> No way, he's done, the part about him "consulting" is just a way to reassure the public that the split was amicable.

They probably pay him some kind of retainer because it would be disastrous for Apple if he does any work for, say, Samsung for 100 million.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by creaghpatr »

foldr wrote: post #618
bayareanative wrote: post #612

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everyone should watch the Louis Rossmann channel before lionizing, much less even saying anything good about modern MBP's they don't seem to understand what's been lost and what sucks. It's not been a long-lasting product for at least 5 years: - the batteries are glued in, making them very difficult to change - there's no locking slot - GPU goes out - the unencapsulated (motherboard) is very susceptible to any humidi…

>community of unrealistic, brainwashed, tribalist fans who lack perspective and criticism Shrug. I prefer MacBooks because the trackpads are better, and trackpad usability is more important to me than the other stuff.

Or if you're not a developer and don't need to do the proverbial heavy lifting, MacBooks are just nicer in general.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by dzhiurgis »

jedberg wrote: post #42

Given his penchant for thinness over function, I hope this means we can have a thicker pro laptop again, with all the ports back and a more robust keyboard.

They need to stop targetting "creatives" (many of who already left Apple) and create another developer line...

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by rezeroed »

bayareanative wrote: post #612
webbrahmin wrote: post #607

I used to love my mac book pro. Sadly, it is not the same device which it used to be. The quest to make it thinner has actually made it a substandard machine. I feel Apple has lost a lot of developer love and brand capital since Jobs. I am hoping things would improve on the product front. Not all devs live in the US. For devs in developing countries, a mac book pro is a serious investment. We want a machine which is…

Everyone should watch the Louis Rossmann channel before lionizing, much less even saying anything good about modern MBP's they don't seem to understand what's been lost and what sucks. It's not been a long-lasting product for at least 5 years: - the batteries are glued in, making them very difficult to change - there's no locking slot - GPU goes out - the unencapsulated (motherboard) is very susceptible to any humidi…

Unfortunately, I can't use a laptop which has a joystick in the middle of the keyboard. Until they stop that I'll have to go dell xps13 when my mbp-2014 dies.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by chrisweekly »

MrGilbert wrote: post #581
Dylan16807 wrote: post #558

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And what do I do with the parts of the status bar that don't fit on the ears?

On iOS? Nothing, 'cause there is no such thing. The "status bar" shows the battery indicator, the signal strength, and wether you are on cellular or wifi. On the left, you've got the name of the carrier you are currently using, whos text is scrolling. If it's unlocked, it shows the current time and if GPS is enabled. That's it.

>"there is no such thing"

Huh?

iOS 12, iPhone X, swipe from top-right to reveal:

Carrier, VPN status, Battery life as a numeric %

... none of which appear in the notch-level "ears". Which is fine (tho were it up to me, I'd prefer VPN status somehow integrated w/ signal strength indicators for cell & wifi).

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by Tepix »

foldr wrote: post #618
bayareanative wrote: post #612

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everyone should watch the Louis Rossmann channel before lionizing, much less even saying anything good about modern MBP's they don't seem to understand what's been lost and what sucks. It's not been a long-lasting product for at least 5 years: - the batteries are glued in, making them very difficult to change - there's no locking slot - GPU goes out - the unencapsulated (motherboard) is very susceptible to any humidi…

>community of unrealistic, brainwashed, tribalist fans who lack perspective and criticism Shrug. I prefer MacBooks because the trackpads are better, and trackpad usability is more important to me than the other stuff.

When was the last time you tried the trackpads on different brand notebooks? They've gotten better. For me the Dell XPS 13 9350's trackpad was good enough that getting all the goodies (USB A and USB C, a repair guide, changeable standard M.2 SSD, SD slot, non crappy keyboard, a lot cheaper) compared to the MacBook Pro made me switch to the Dell notebook.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by H1Supreme »

Tepix wrote: post #626
foldr wrote: post #618

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>community of unrealistic, brainwashed, tribalist fans who lack perspective and criticism Shrug. I prefer MacBooks because the trackpads are better, and trackpad usability is more important to me than the other stuff.

When was the last time you tried the trackpads on different brand notebooks? They've gotten better. For me the Dell XPS 13 9350's trackpad was good enough that getting all the goodies (USB A and USB C, a repair guide, changeable standard M.2 SSD, SD slot, non crappy keyboard, a lot cheaper) compared to the MacBook Pro made me switch to the Dell notebook.

I went from a MBP to a Dell Inspiron 7370 I installed Ubuntu on. I've found the trackpad to be just fine. I'm not doing any advanced multi finger gestures, but regular scrolling and two finger movements are good. Plus, I haven't ran into any palm rejection issues.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by foldr »

Tepix wrote: post #626
foldr wrote: post #618

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>community of unrealistic, brainwashed, tribalist fans who lack perspective and criticism Shrug. I prefer MacBooks because the trackpads are better, and trackpad usability is more important to me than the other stuff.

When was the last time you tried the trackpads on different brand notebooks? They've gotten better. For me the Dell XPS 13 9350's trackpad was good enough that getting all the goodies (USB A and USB C, a repair guide, changeable standard M.2 SSD, SD slot, non crappy keyboard, a lot cheaper) compared to the MacBook Pro made me switch to the Dell notebook.

I try them out in stores pretty regularly. The macbook is still way ahead.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by hevi_jos »

bayareanative wrote: post #612
webbrahmin wrote: post #607

I used to love my mac book pro. Sadly, it is not the same device which it used to be. The quest to make it thinner has actually made it a substandard machine. I feel Apple has lost a lot of developer love and brand capital since Jobs. I am hoping things would improve on the product front. Not all devs live in the US. For devs in developing countries, a mac book pro is a serious investment. We want a machine which is…

Everyone should watch the Louis Rossmann channel before lionizing, much less even saying anything good about modern MBP's they don't seem to understand what's been lost and what sucks. It's not been a long-lasting product for at least 5 years: - the batteries are glued in, making them very difficult to change - there's no locking slot - GPU goes out - the unencapsulated (motherboard) is very susceptible to any humidi…

"- community of unrealistic, brainwashed, tribalist fans who lack perspective and criticism"

Why do you feel the urge to insult those that do not see the world like you do?

You call them "unrealistic", so it makes you fell realistic. "brainwashed" so it makes you feel clear minded. "tribalist" so it makes you feel individually intelligent. "lack perspective", so you believe you have perspective.

The fact is that some of these people are really smarter than you are and happier and more fulfilled than you are. And have way more money than you have. Some of them will be stupid, but not all like you believe.

These people have real reasons to choose an Apple product and they are as valid as your reasons.

While everything you say is true, the fact is that these people give them a different value that you do. I have a friend that has a company and earns 2000 dollars everyday, does he cares about an overprice laptop? Not really, he cares about time, and interruptions(he had a Windows laptop that used to interrupt him for hours at the worst possible time), he cares about weight, and malware installed by default that you could not uninstall.

Right now I am criticizing your attitude. How do you respond to it is a way to measure your level of "handling criticism ability" that you implicitly presume of.

But it does feels different, doen't it? Criticize others is so easy.

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