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Reinventing Firefox for Android

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Re: Reinventing Firefox for Android

#341

I'm aware that I'm reaching a Cartago-delenda-est situation here, but since I see some mozilla devs here I must ask: Is there any news about the deal breaker bugs that are still keeping thousands of people from moving to firefox on OSX? I'm referring to the bugs that cause extreme CPU usage and as a consequence extreme heating and battery usage, mainly on macbooks with retina screens set to "more space" resolution. I…

Also, touchpad zoom on mbp is still not a thing in ff.

Re: Reinventing Firefox for Android

#342

I'm aware that I'm reaching a Cartago-delenda-est situation here, but since I see some mozilla devs here I must ask: Is there any news about the deal breaker bugs that are still keeping thousands of people from moving to firefox on OSX? I'm referring to the bugs that cause extreme CPU usage and as a consequence extreme heating and battery usage, mainly on macbooks with retina screens set to "more space" resolution. I…

I really hate to be a “works on my machine” kind of person, but I’ve been running FF Nightly for personal stuff and FF Developer Edition for work on a variety of Macs for at least three years now and have literally never had any problem. I am not trying to cast doubt on your experience, but I just wanted to point out that it isn’t universal!

It's really weird, because some people I talk to has never noticed a problem, yet I've been able to reproduce it (unwillingly) every time I've tried to install firefox on any macbook - different machines, different OS version, clean installs, you name it. It's just a matter of installing FF and using it lightly for some minutes (different websites too, or just showing the start page in the background) and the fans are already at full speed.

It makes me really confused because my current understanding on the bug doesn't seem to be compatible with the idea of only affecting some users - and to be clear I'm not casting doubt on your experience either, it's just hard to imagine how a performance issue regarding the compositor and screen redrawing could be affecting users differently.

Re: Reinventing Firefox for Android

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post #271

I'm aware that I'm reaching a Cartago-delenda-est situation here, but since I see some mozilla devs here I must ask: Is there any news about the deal breaker bugs that are still keeping thousands of people from moving to firefox on OSX? I'm referring to the bugs that cause extreme CPU usage and as a consequence extreme heating and battery usage, mainly on macbooks with retina screens set to "more space" resolution. I…

That's odd. I'm on a 2015 MBP with Mojave, and I recently switched from Chrome to Firefox because Chrome started causing intermitted freezes (even the mouse pointer wouldn't move). I've been on Firefox (and Safari) for over a week now. No issues.

Do you have your MBP screen's resolution set to "more space" on system preferences -> displays? Are you using an external monitor for FF?

(Just curious about how your setup differs from mine)

Re: Reinventing Firefox for Android

#344

This is a great step in the right direction …but I really don’t like the thing that slides up at the bottom of the screen. It takes the place of content which is 99.99% the reason I’m there. Not to share our bookmark. If I want to do that, I’ll find it in the menu. And is it just me that really, really needs a fast way to switch tabs to use a browser? Chrome lets me swipe across the bar at the top of the screen, but…

Please allow swiping the address bar to switch tabs.

Otherwise it's just too slow.

That is what keeps me away from using Firefox on mobile (15 years Firefox user).

Re: Reinventing Firefox for Android

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Wow, usability is so much better - dark theme, support for Samsung OneUI, search on bottom. Full release will be great (and used by 0.00001% of droid users). PS: using FF mobile for 3 years exclusively. Googlenet can go in the known direction.

Re: Reinventing Firefox for Android

#347

What is the point to have a different version of Firefox? Can't they simply remove the unneeded cruft from the standard version?

The new Firefox for Android should eventually have roughly the same feature set as the old one. It's faster because it uses a whole new technology stack, not because they decided not to add unneeded cruft, whatever that means.

Re: Reinventing Firefox for Android

#348

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The hard work you guys put in is always appreciated, FF in all its forms has become truly the best browser there is. That being said, how on earth was Reader Mode prioritized above adblocking? As it stands, adblocking is "post MVP"[1][2]. QR code scanning, however, is somehow part of the MVP. This doesn't make sense to me: there are many apps that launch the default system browser when scanning a URL QR code. You can…

I understand where you're coming from, but I honestly find Firefox Preview's built-in tracking protection blocks enough ads on its own. I'd encourage you to give it a shot. (Though, to reassure you: proper adblocking is on the roadmap.) On the other hand, QR code scanning is necessary for a good Firefox Sync setup experience, and that genuinely seems crucial to the MVP: we don't want your data stranded on one device…

Any idea why after sync I can see history from my desktop browser, but no bookmarks? There are only 3 clean folders on Firefox Preview.

Re: Reinventing Firefox for Android

#349

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Hmm. Using Firefox because it has a particular technological feature is a political choice. That political stance would lead users to turn to other browsers as fast as tech is added or removed. I use Firefox for political reasons and for what it stands. Which means that when Firefox gets worse I still use it and support what it stands for. It's very Stallmanesque and let it be clear I am not saying the choice to favo…

It's great that you have political reasons to use Firefox. But to be most effective, you have to recognize that most other users won't care about it that strongly, so you have to use arguments that matter to them in a practical way. This way, you can switch your acquaintances to use Firefox, and they'll stay with it by inertia. I'd say that's a win-win.

> It's great that you have political reasons to use Firefox.

I don't think I am making myself clear. Everyone has a cultural and political profile that dictates some choices and it doesn't matter if they acknowledge it or not.

> But to be most effective, you have to recognize that most other users won't care about it that strongly, so you have to use arguments that matter to them in a practical way.

Oh, but the privacy and anti-ad argument is a strong political argument that will outlive the tech of the day.

> and they'll stay with it by inertia.

And if Mozilla pulls a google and becomes evil, that inertia is now a problem you have to overcome on other grounds than the tech.

It's an easy and short term win-win until the next HN article "ff slower than chrome in test XYZ, jump ships everyone !".

Re: Reinventing Firefox for Android

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post #348

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I understand where you're coming from, but I honestly find Firefox Preview's built-in tracking protection blocks enough ads on its own. I'd encourage you to give it a shot. (Though, to reassure you: proper adblocking is on the roadmap.) On the other hand, QR code scanning is necessary for a good Firefox Sync setup experience, and that genuinely seems crucial to the MVP: we don't want your data stranded on one device…

Any idea why after sync I can see history from my desktop browser, but no bookmarks? There are only 3 clean folders on Firefox Preview.

It looks like that should have been resolved a month ago with build 1.0.1921 (https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/fenix/issues/2252)... are you sure your bookmarks are set to sync (check in about:preferences on desktop)? If so, try forcing a new sync Firefox Preview by hitting Settings -> Sync -> Sync Now.
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