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Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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I would guess he is going to continue to be in charge of design for their flagship products for the foreseeable future.

No way, he's done, the part about him "consulting" is just a way to reassure the public that the split was amicable.

Which it might not actually be. His consulting might be in name only.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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I suspect he had a hand in several recent Apple "successes" like extra thin keyboards that break easily, $999 monitor stands and not to forget, the cables that come apart easily. While his work was definitely important at Apple, I think he might have lost the needed balance when SJ left

I think this may well be true. I've argued for years that what Steve Jobs was exceptionally good at was acting as a kind of "product editor": he could look at a program or a device and very quickly pinpoint problems. He wasn't perfect at this -- it's easy to point out big flubs and minor misfeatures -- but he was clearly better at it than most people at most companies, and sure seems to be better at than anyone left at Apple.

(More than one long-time Apple employee has told me that they think Scott Forstall was nearly as good at this as Jobs was, and that it's quite possible some of Apple's more egregious form-over-function blunders in the last five or six years would have been avoided if Forstall was still on board. Forstall was admittedly the champion of skueomorphism, but I'd accept the silly linen backgrounds if it meant better keyswitches.)

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Given his penchant for thinness over function, I hope this means we can have a thicker pro laptop again, with all the ports back and a more robust keyboard.

It’d be interesting to see the results of a survey on this I think, I and I know many of my peers are of the exact opposite opinion. I like the move to usb-c, I like the new keyboard, I don’t mind (but also don’t really use) the Touch Bar but I can’t live without Touch ID at this point. The big trackpad is magical to me, and the thickness and weight of the 13” is just right. I have an older MBP as well, 2013 maybe, and it’s lovely too but it feels like an old truck next to my sleek sports car that is my 2016 MBP.

I for one would be sad if they went back on some of the supposedly bold moves they’ve pulled, to be honest. The only thing I wish is that they’d kill that silly lightning connector for the phones so I could have usb-c goodness there too!

I guess that’s just design for ya – it’s often divisive, especially if decisive.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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post #16

Nothing in this post says Ive's new company will only work with Apple. Maybe he'll land Dell as a client..

My guess is that he is leaving Apple specifically to work on non-computing projects. I think he wants to work on a wide range of design challenges, and he probably has done everything he can with Apple.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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post #91
post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No way, he's done, the part about him "consulting" is just a way to reassure the public that the split was amicable.

Which it might not actually be. His consulting might be in name only.

Isn't that what they're saying?

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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AMEN. I hope this jagoff's incredibly degrading influence on Apple's products can be reversed.

Yeah, the designer of the iMac, iPod, iPhone, iPad, Macbook really tanked the company with those.

Yeah, Dieter Rams' influence was far beyond Braun, wasn't it? Ive's additions were OK.

The iconic designs were nearly direct lifts of Rams' work, and even extended to the apps.

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