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Re: Show HN: A Firefox extension to leave comments on any URL

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Post by ianbicking »

Tepix wrote: post #91

A long time ago, there was a W3C standard for this called web annotations². It never really caught on, possibly because people and organizations were expected to host their own annotation servers. NCSA Mosaic had the feature back in 1993. Check out this post from Marc Andreesen on the www-talk list: http://1997.webhistory.org/www.lists/www-talk.1993q2/0416.ht... A rather obscure browser by the W3C called Annotea also…

There's an active Apache Incubator group on annotation: https://annotator.apache.org/

It's focused on several related specs, like making timestamped copies of pages (like archive.org), selecting ranges in pages, making selections that are resilient to page changes, and maybe more I'm not aware of.

They have a GitHub repo that has some other work as well: https://github.com/apache/incubator-annotator/

Re: Show HN: A Firefox extension to leave comments on any URL

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Post by darkarmani »

avip wrote: post #42
s9w wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some people just want to be able to say what is legally allowed. That ability is attacked again and again. You don't have to want that freedom yourself, but imposing that restriction on others can be criticized.

Does this extension give any party the power to unpublish not-legally-allowed content?

> give any party the power to unpublish not-legally-allowed content

Like the party that published it?

Re: Show HN: A Firefox extension to leave comments on any URL

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Post by gfosco »

sascha_sl wrote: post #113
skrowl wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dissenter is pretty great for commenting on things that have heavy-handed censorship, like political YouTube videos. They recently created their own browser (a fork of Brave with all of the BAT sh*tcoin stuff removed) when Google and Firefox both censored their extension and it seems like it's lighter and faster than Chrome, at least in my testing.

I requested the Gab Mastodon fork code a week or so ago. Normally worded email. Nothing antagonistic there. I know how to be professional. 4 days ago, CTO of Gab calling me an "SJW" on his Gab feed. Thanks, I'll consider it a certification. From the grand wizard of Gab Tech himself. /s There's plenty of other insanely toxic content on Gab. But if you're signed up to it and don't see the issue... there's really no poi…

Not surprising that he jumped to that conclusion, considering the response they've gotten from the Mastodon community. Not only are people lobbying apps to hardcode bans to entire domains that aren't even live, they're planning to lobby app stores to pressure apps that refuse to implement those bans.

Re: Show HN: A Firefox extension to leave comments on any URL

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Post by ekzy »

syx wrote: post #65
rtpg wrote: post #43

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I wrote a chrome extension that went the opposite direction: hit the extension button and you would get a list of hacker news and reddit submissions for that URL. Was super useful for finding some cool comments on a page I’ve since moved to Firefox and gave up on the extension, but it might be an easy port...

you just described exactly what I've done a year ago [1] I always promised myself to rewrite it for Firefox but was too lazy. [1] https://github.com/syxanash/commentdat

I wrote a similar extension too! Looks like we all had the same idea

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/hacker-news-lookup...

Re: Show HN: A Firefox extension to leave comments on any URL

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Post by gfosco »

skrowl wrote: post #80
phoe-krk wrote: post #5

This sounds similar to the (in)famous Dissenter comment functionality. What are the differences?

Dissenter is pretty great for commenting on things that have heavy-handed censorship, like political YouTube videos. They recently created their own browser (a fork of Brave with all of the BAT sh*tcoin stuff removed) when Google and Firefox both censored their extension and it seems like it's lighter and faster than Chrome, at least in my testing.

Yeah, the browser project is quite nice... and it has more room to improve in terms of size/speed. While most of the Brave stuff is disabled, some is still compiled/linked in the build.

Re: Show HN: A Firefox extension to leave comments on any URL

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Post by manifestsilence »

apostacy wrote: post #130
mehdix wrote: post #92

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The technical problem here is way easier to solve than the social one. You'd want to avoid having hatespeech or some attack being planned on URLs of your blog. This is by definition a tricky problem. Should moderation follow us to the remotest and most deserted corners of the web? Should prying eyes follow humans all the time, even on this abstract ocean of digital content? On technical side I think we'd need some so…

> You'd want to avoid having hatespeech or some attack being planned on URLs of your blog. How could you possibly expect to control people saying things about your blog on a remote webserver? There is no solution that is not worse than the speech. This is not a problem that needs solving.

Then the problem instead becomes what is a valid comment, and a valid commenter (identity). Otherwise the vast majority of comments will be: WaNt A BiGgEr SoMeThInG? Go tO wWw.S0mEgR0$$sItE.cOm

Re: Show HN: A Firefox extension to leave comments on any URL

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Post by mottosso »

manifestsilence wrote: post #156
apostacy wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You'd want to avoid having hatespeech or some attack being planned on URLs of your blog. How could you possibly expect to control people saying things about your blog on a remote webserver? There is no solution that is not worse than the speech. This is not a problem that needs solving.

Then the problem instead becomes what is a valid comment, and a valid commenter (identity). Otherwise the vast majority of comments will be: WaNt A BiGgEr SoMeThInG? Go tO wWw.S0mEgR0$$sItE.cOm

I do want a bigger something! Sign me up!

Re: Show HN: A Firefox extension to leave comments on any URL

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Post by AgentME »

cafxx wrote: post #158

"it attaches comments to SHA1 of the URL, to avoid leaking PII" Seriously, SHA1?

I don't think it's particularly bad for this use-case: the easy failure scenario someone can do now is that a site operator could make two URLs that the extension considers to be the same and shows the same comments for, and the worst-case scenario is that someone makes a URL the extension considers the same as someone else's URL.

But regardless, it's weird that anyone would reach for SHA-1 for anything new now.

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