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How Chinese Food Fueled the Rise of California Punk

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Just yesterday out of nostalgia I downloaded some classic songs by X - Los Angeles, Under the Big Black Sun, etc. Fun shows! I don't have any of my old vinyl anymore. Anybody here still holding onto your old albums?

I stupidly sold all my good albums in the late 90s in a final move to digital. A few years later my uncle gave me his best, and I was smart enough to keep them. So I have original Sgt. Pepper's and Dark Side of the Moon, etc.

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N.B. it has some confusing passages to people that doesn't know L.A. very well. e.g. "Chinese immigrants had started moving to suburban enclaves like the San Gabriel Valley, bypassing Chinatown and its businesses completely" and then proceed to tell an anecdote from a restaurant in the very heart of downtown chinatown.

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The article was great, I will be interested to see the documentary especially if they've got video footage from some of the shows.

Also check out the documentary "Los Punks: We Are All We Have" which covers the Latino punk scene in LA. https://www.kqed.org/news/10985167/documentary-reveals-l-a-s...

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the punks were certainly the most health-toxic sub-culture in post-hippy California.. definitely early pain-killer abusers, plus glue or extreme alcohol, etc. not uncommon to hear of deaths, treachery or jail.. SF Fab-Mab ruler Dirk was later found to be sexually using adolescents pretty regularly .. lead singer of Fang on America's Most Wanted national TV for killing a girl over heroin, things like that .. freedom has a price ! and if the songs regularly invoke violence and madness, guess what, it actually results in violence and madness.. who would have guessed

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the punks were certainly the most health-toxic sub-culture in post-hippy California.. definitely early pain-killer abusers, plus glue or extreme alcohol, etc. not uncommon to hear of deaths, treachery or jail.. SF Fab-Mab ruler Dirk was later found to be sexually using adolescents pretty regularly .. lead singer of Fang on America's Most Wanted national TV for killing a girl over heroin, things like that .. freedom h…

But if it is 'rap music' violence, madness, drug use, rape, etc. are fine, because if you say otherwise you are racist. Maybe it is racist to not hold all human beings to the same standard of decency?

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the punks were certainly the most health-toxic sub-culture in post-hippy California.. definitely early pain-killer abusers, plus glue or extreme alcohol, etc. not uncommon to hear of deaths, treachery or jail.. SF Fab-Mab ruler Dirk was later found to be sexually using adolescents pretty regularly .. lead singer of Fang on America's Most Wanted national TV for killing a girl over heroin, things like that .. freedom h…

But if it is 'rap music' violence, madness, drug use, rape, etc. are fine, because if you say otherwise you are racist. Maybe it is racist to not hold all human beings to the same standard of decency?

The key difference is that the Punk subculture sprung up around the music, where much of the 'rap music' was reflective (exaggerated and glamorized) of an existing situation and subculture. I think you can still argue that violent rap music incites or inspires crime though. I think you can generally criticize effects, but you skirt the line with racism when you start projecting that too broadly.

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the punks were certainly the most health-toxic sub-culture in post-hippy California.. definitely early pain-killer abusers, plus glue or extreme alcohol, etc. not uncommon to hear of deaths, treachery or jail.. SF Fab-Mab ruler Dirk was later found to be sexually using adolescents pretty regularly .. lead singer of Fang on America's Most Wanted national TV for killing a girl over heroin, things like that .. freedom h…

Do you also believe that violent video games cause real-world violence? How about movies? Novels?

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Great read until "intersectionality" showed up.

The word "intersection" showed up once. The word "intersectionality" did not appear in the article. What is your complaint about the term?

To a certain group of people, any words that reference (or in this case, words that look similar to different words that reference) the concept that perhaps Christian White Males are not the very pinnacle of civilization trigger an extreme reaction.
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