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Reinventing Firefox for Android

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Re: Reinventing Firefox for Android

#31

Add extensions support and disable telemetry/remote-control by default (pushing updates where you control the code is remote control, don't even try to argue against that one).

> disable telemetry/remote-control by default (pushing updates where you control the code is remote control, don't even try to argue against that one).

So they shouldn't put updates on the Play Store?

Re: Reinventing Firefox for Android

#32
post #25

Still no pull to refresh. They really don't want users to adopt their browser. Literally every single other mobile Web browser supports it. Yet Mozilla has some ideological stance that it breaks web interaction (with what, the 0.0001% of browser that target Firefox above Safari or Chrome on mobile).

In fairness, that is pretty non-standard and is only done on Android as I understand.

It's not a Standard but it is the industry norm and what users expect.

Mozilla caved on DRM but this is the line they won't cross?

Re: Reinventing Firefox for Android

#33

Add extensions support and disable telemetry/remote-control by default (pushing updates where you control the code is remote control, don't even try to argue against that one).

Telemetry helps them improve the product, and auto updates is the only way to protect users from 0-days.

Re: Reinventing Firefox for Android

#34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a preview version (as mentioned a billion times in the article). Addons are planned by the end of 2019. This is for testing.

Like others have said, uBlock Origin ( or solid alternative; uMatrix, etc ) at this point is a prerequisite for any browser. I am not testing something that puts me in danger and throws me into the festering garbage dumpster that internet is these days without it. It's like testing a car that doesn't have brakes yet.

So don't test, it's not mandatory...

Re: Reinventing Firefox for Android

#35
post #3

Does not support any addons, and is therefore useless until it does. (uBlock Origin is a prerequisite for me.)

uBO is the main reason I use Firefox on Android, as well.

With that said, what sites are you visiting? It could be that I simply don't visit sites with any ads, but I gave a few of my daily sites a spin in Firefox Preview and didn't notice any ads.

Re: Reinventing Firefox for Android

#37
> In order to have a strong foundation for the next generation of mobile Firefox browsers and put all our efforts and resources in GeckoView, work on Firefox Focus will currently be on hold. Don’t worry though, you can still keep using our privacy browser, Focus, as well as our current Firefox for Android.

I think this is a typo, and meant to say that Firefox for Android development is on hold, not Focus.

Re: Reinventing Firefox for Android

#38
post #3

Does not support any addons, and is therefore useless until it does. (uBlock Origin is a prerequisite for me.)

Same here. I do not know why the heck Mozilla is tiptoeing from just hiring Raymond and making uBlock an integral part of firefox.

Note that they already included something similar, which is SafeBrowsing(TM), that is maintained by google. Technically, it is exactly the same concept. But uBlock is actively request by 99% of their users, while safeBrowser(TM) fingerprinting is mostly disabled by half.

Re: Reinventing Firefox for Android

#39
post #25

Still no pull to refresh. They really don't want users to adopt their browser. Literally every single other mobile Web browser supports it. Yet Mozilla has some ideological stance that it breaks web interaction (with what, the 0.0001% of browser that target Firefox above Safari or Chrome on mobile).

Pull-to-refresh certainly is catching on (I expect my smartphone-addicted parents will discover it within the next 5 years), but I can also understand if there are some reservations about implementing it.

What should happen when the user is interacting with the Android device via a non-touch input device, such as a mouse with a scroll wheel? Scroll-wheel-up-to-refresh?

One of the worst edge cases is on sites with infinite scroll. Having to scroll up 47 pages in order to refresh is not great. It is also nice to refresh a page without losing one's place on it. For these reasons, I would like to see the refresh button remain, even if pull-to-refresh is implemented.

Re: Reinventing Firefox for Android

#40
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like others have said, uBlock Origin ( or solid alternative; uMatrix, etc ) at this point is a prerequisite for any browser. I am not testing something that puts me in danger and throws me into the festering garbage dumpster that internet is these days without it. It's like testing a car that doesn't have brakes yet.

So don't test, it's not mandatory...

I am a developer and spend half my work time in Firefox Nightly. This is not usable for me despite being exactly the target for this preview.
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