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India reportedly wants to build its own WhatsApp for government communications

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Re: India reportedly wants to build its own WhatsApp for government communications

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What are the chances they're going to use Java instead of Erlang?

Does it matter? Routing text is a solved problem and not particularly hard at any scale. The interesting parts for any potential implementation only pertain to things like workflow, integrations to existing applications and services and regulatory requirements (export, backup etc) - from that end, Erlang is not a great option.

It's not just text, but images, audio and live video. Tons of images are being uploaded everyday to WhatsApp.

Re: India reportedly wants to build its own WhatsApp for government communications

#53

Bet you TCS or most likely Infosys will be the implementation partner. Tax money goes in. Crap comes out. As usual. Public will sing praises.

Not that I like TCS or Infosys, but why does everyone appear to hate them so much? If most organisations appear to go with them, is it because they lack market options at what they offer?

On the other hand ,Wouldn’t some other govt sub-org like CDAC etc might get to build this via NIC or whomsoever supervises this?

Re: India reportedly wants to build its own WhatsApp for government communications

#54
This is good.

Hopefully it inspired a bit of innovation.

China has learned a lot from not adopting all the US products and implementing their own product and in some ways we see things they did, that our products had not done yet.

The monoculture that the digital hegemony of a few multi national corporations creating the only viable solutions is not healthy.

Making something like a government chat system, might be the seed for creating a public system.

Re: India reportedly wants to build its own WhatsApp for government communications

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Its scary how prevalent Whats App is in India. A lot of official communication happens over WhatsApp. So it makes sense to move sensitive communication over something homegrown and outside jurisdiction of foreign government. But Indian government does not have a very good track record in terms of cyber security so an actual secure implementation seems pretty far off.

Re: India reportedly wants to build its own WhatsApp for government communications

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post #55

Its scary how prevalent Whats App is in India. A lot of official communication happens over WhatsApp. So it makes sense to move sensitive communication over something homegrown and outside jurisdiction of foreign government. But Indian government does not have a very good track record in terms of cyber security so an actual secure implementation seems pretty far off.

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Re: India reportedly wants to build its own WhatsApp for government communications

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Thank the French for that, who are the main reason behind the EU legislation about Cookies. This again is wrong. The problem originated by publishers who track users and disrespect their privacy for many years. The regulation that happened after a very long time of people urging governments to do something about that, makes this initial problem better visible. Still it is important to understand: no cookies are nee…

The cookie situation has been exacerbated exactly because of the cookie law. Previously I could just block cookies client-side (like any sane user avoiding cookies would) and every site worked just fine. However, after the cookie regulation, numerous sites just straight up started to block access _unless_ you accept their cookies. Cookie regulation is one of the best examples of how governments meddling into tech has…

This is wrong information.

Publishers can show a cookie-free site to all visitors and offer a cookie opt-in for some kind of added value, e.g. "more information for membership".

There is no governmental force pushing anybody to produce a website that diplays a "cookie dialog" even before you see what that site is about or if you like it. You are producing a false and absurd story of "governments meddling into tech produces cookie dialogs".

Re: India reportedly wants to build its own WhatsApp for government communications

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post #55

Its scary how prevalent Whats App is in India. A lot of official communication happens over WhatsApp. So it makes sense to move sensitive communication over something homegrown and outside jurisdiction of foreign government. But Indian government does not have a very good track record in terms of cyber security so an actual secure implementation seems pretty far off.

OMG your username :) I love that place. It is absolutely scary when government officials in India ask you for your sensitive information to be sent through WhatsApp and when you can't suggest them an alternative way or say them no.

Re: India reportedly wants to build its own WhatsApp for government communications

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a technologist, I agree with your view. But in cases like sanctions, I think the "Let me show who has the power" mentality takes over. So, a country (say USA) can pressure its companies (like Microsoft in 1998) to stop providing some features/services/products to have some leverage over the sanctioned country. The unfortunate pattern in history has been that politics wins over rationality.

Do you have some reference to something that suggests that this is what actually happened? I don't think the US government made Microsoft put weak encryption in export versions of IE because India tested a nuke.

Sorry! I tried so bad to find it but couldn't :-( Someday ..
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