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Google’s new reCAPTCHA has a dark side

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Re: Google’s new reCAPTCHA has a dark side

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

sleavey wrote: post #12
cbsks wrote: post #5

You can view your reCaptcha V3 score here: https://recaptcha-demo.appspot.com/recaptcha-v3-request-scor... I get .7 on my iPhone, I’m guessing that my liberal use of Firefox containers and the cookie auto-delete extension on my desktop will give me a much lower score and cause me to have to jump through extra hoops at websites that implement it, just like the reCaptcha V2 does. Edit: I also got 0.7 on Firefox with st…

I get 0.1 continuously, possibly because I have resist fingerprinting enabled in Firefox. I'm not changing anything to compensate that score; it shows I must be doing something right. If I encounter a reCAPTCHA I will continue to (usually) just leave the site it's on.

Same, the way to look at a low score is "I'm getting privacy right".

Re: Google’s new reCAPTCHA has a dark side

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Post by sdegutis »

cbsks wrote: post #5

You can view your reCaptcha V3 score here: https://recaptcha-demo.appspot.com/recaptcha-v3-request-scor... I get .7 on my iPhone, I’m guessing that my liberal use of Firefox containers and the cookie auto-delete extension on my desktop will give me a much lower score and cause me to have to jump through extra hoops at websites that implement it, just like the reCaptcha V2 does. Edit: I also got 0.7 on Firefox with st…

It didn't load for me and I couldn't figure out why.

Then I remembered that I put this in my /etc/hosts a few weeks ago and forgot about it.

    127.0.0.1       google.com
    127.0.0.1       www.google.com
[Edit] So if nothing shows up for you on that page, check for that. Also I just generally recommend it. Google has some unethical practices and duckduckgo.com is pretty good.

Re: Google’s new reCAPTCHA has a dark side

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Post by superasn »

There are a lot of sites that are totally unusable on Firefox regardless how much you use ff.

I do all my mobile browsing on FF yet when I try to use some websites I always get this Recaptcha failed error(1) while it works flawlessly on chrome though I never use it often. Try it, maybe it will happen for you too.

Same happens on most sites which show you that "checking your browser" page via cloudflare too.

The web is very unusable unless you're using chrome because of such antics.

(1) https://cdn3.imggmi.com/uploads/2019/6/27/0dd96b25707ce6e236...

Re: Google’s new reCAPTCHA has a dark side

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Post by TheArcane »

cbsks wrote: post #5

You can view your reCaptcha V3 score here: https://recaptcha-demo.appspot.com/recaptcha-v3-request-scor... I get .7 on my iPhone, I’m guessing that my liberal use of Firefox containers and the cookie auto-delete extension on my desktop will give me a much lower score and cause me to have to jump through extra hoops at websites that implement it, just like the reCaptcha V2 does. Edit: I also got 0.7 on Firefox with st…

I use the same extensions on desktop and get 0.3 on my android Firefox

Re: Google’s new reCAPTCHA has a dark side

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Post by owaislone »

ixwt wrote: post #7
cbsks wrote: post #5

You can view your reCaptcha V3 score here: https://recaptcha-demo.appspot.com/recaptcha-v3-request-scor... I get .7 on my iPhone, I’m guessing that my liberal use of Firefox containers and the cookie auto-delete extension on my desktop will give me a much lower score and cause me to have to jump through extra hoops at websites that implement it, just like the reCaptcha V2 does. Edit: I also got 0.7 on Firefox with st…

I get a 0.7 on my computer on Firefox. If I use the same website in Chrome (which is signed into a Google account) I get a 0.9. I guess it's a [0,1] scale?

I get 0.9 on Firefox which is my main browser and 0.7 on Chrome which I use only for hangouts.

Re: Google’s new reCAPTCHA has a dark side

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Post by superasn »

cbsks wrote: post #5

You can view your reCaptcha V3 score here: https://recaptcha-demo.appspot.com/recaptcha-v3-request-scor... I get .7 on my iPhone, I’m guessing that my liberal use of Firefox containers and the cookie auto-delete extension on my desktop will give me a much lower score and cause me to have to jump through extra hoops at websites that implement it, just like the reCaptcha V2 does. Edit: I also got 0.7 on Firefox with st…

I too got 0.1 even though I'm not on a VPN, and have a stock FF installation with just uBlock addon. I think my ISP may have some part in it but still 0.1 score is 100% bot right?

I'm also logged into google and fb which also doesn't affect my score. Only shows how broken their algorithm is :(

edit: just tried it with chrome and my score jumped to 0.9! So definitely not my ISP. It's just my browser that Recaptcha doesn't like. If you put two and two together that's really evil shit, even for Google!

Re: Google’s new reCAPTCHA has a dark side

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Post by pergadad »

superasn wrote: post #24

There are a lot of sites that are totally unusable on Firefox regardless how much you use ff. I do all my mobile browsing on FF yet when I try to use some websites I always get this Recaptcha failed error(1) while it works flawlessly on chrome though I never use it often. Try it, maybe it will happen for you too. Same happens on most sites which show you that "checking your browser" page via cloudflare too. The web i…

I have the same experience, some pages don't work on FF but fine on Chrome. I like to apply Occam's Razor, but with so many users it seems to me as if that's either by design, or certainly there is little desire to fix the issue.

Re: Google’s new reCAPTCHA has a dark side

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Post by Twirrim »

benologist wrote: post #8
ixwt wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I get a 0.7 on my computer on Firefox. If I use the same website in Chrome (which is signed into a Google account) I get a 0.9. I guess it's a [0,1] scale?

I'm guessing their a-listers came up with something like this: // TODO: add impressive-looking math if (signedin && trackedEverywhere) { return 0.9 } else { return 0.7 } I think we give Google way too much credit for their talent. This is the same company that didn't feel like finishing their website for two decades and subsequently stole $75 million from their users even when Google knew [1]. The same company that s…

If I sign out of my google account in Chrome it drops from 0.9 to 0.7.

I could have sworn I'd never signed in to Chrome using my google account, but I guess I must have mistakenly signed in to gmail or something.

I use FF as my main browser, only ever drop back to Chrome sporadically, or when I really want tabs to be completely isolated (there are some annoyingly CPU/power intensive stuff I do from time to time, and I can just renice Chrome while I get on with other stuff.)

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