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Re: Show HN: A Firefox extension to leave comments on any URL

#81

This is very similar to hypothes.is, apart from the hashing: https://web.hypothes.is/

This actually looks a lot cooler than the OP. :) Edit: oh wait...chrome only

I think it's good. It's based on open standards, has a proactive and engaged organisation behind it and, crucially, a community of users.

Not to detract from the OP.

(Edit: It's an open standard. There are plugins for different browsers, a web interface and API)

Re: Show HN: A Firefox extension to leave comments on any URL

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wrote a chrome extension that went the opposite direction: hit the extension button and you would get a list of hacker news and reddit submissions for that URL. Was super useful for finding some cool comments on a page I’ve since moved to Firefox and gave up on the extension, but it might be an easy port...

you just described exactly what I've done a year ago [1] I always promised myself to rewrite it for Firefox but was too lazy. [1] https://github.com/syxanash/commentdat

FYI: converting a Chrome to a FF extension is easy to do now.

They are mostly the same, and Firefox has a compatibility library that stubs most of the incompatibilities.

Re: Show HN: A Firefox extension to leave comments on any URL

#83
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wrote a chrome extension that went the opposite direction: hit the extension button and you would get a list of hacker news and reddit submissions for that URL. Was super useful for finding some cool comments on a page I’ve since moved to Firefox and gave up on the extension, but it might be an easy port...

you just described exactly what I've done a year ago [1] I always promised myself to rewrite it for Firefox but was too lazy. [1] https://github.com/syxanash/commentdat

Same as the [1] extension I wrote last year. Firefox was easier to incorporate than I thought though, the API is almost identical.

[1] https://newsit.benwinding.com/

Re: Show HN: A Firefox extension to leave comments on any URL

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That exactly what it means

No it's not. I am in no way required to provide you a platform to talk through or to allow you to continue using a platform you've been using. All it means is that the government, key word, is not allowed to stop you from using a platform you are allowed by it's owners to use.

> [...] All it means is that the government, key word, is not allowed to stop you from using a platform [...]

The confusion (ours, not yours specifically) might arise because some talk about free speech the principle and others talk about free speech the legal norm. (The latter is prominently codified in the US constitution and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights).

It's not the same and the principle isn't exclusively about government.

Free speech is also a very old ideal and exists in places where the US constitution doesn't apply and places where human rights aren't implemented through local policies. It can be violated in places where there is no government at all.

There's this great Wikipedia article on the topic which introduces first the idea, then different implementations: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech

Re: Show HN: A Firefox extension to leave comments on any URL

#85
Technically the thing is nothing new, the really important questions are those related to real life operation, and I don't see them answered. * Position in regard to censorship, and technical tools to do, or counter it.

* Viability/resilience of the server which keeps comments.

* Under which jurisdiction it is hosted?

* If it depends on a domain name who owns it?

* Can a commenter be traced, and by whom?

* Can anybody (including original author) edit comments?

Re: Show HN: A Firefox extension to leave comments on any URL

#86

This is very similar to hypothes.is, apart from the hashing: https://web.hypothes.is/

This actually looks a lot cooler than the OP. :) Edit: oh wait...chrome only

There is a bookmarklet that works for firefox.

Re: Show HN: A Firefox extension to leave comments on any URL

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This sounds similar to the (in)famous Dissenter comment functionality. What are the differences?

Dissenter is pretty great for commenting on things that have heavy-handed censorship, like political YouTube videos. They recently created their own browser (a fork of Brave with all of the BAT sh*tcoin stuff removed) when Google and Firefox both censored their extension and it seems like it's lighter and faster than Chrome, at least in my testing.

"censored" Relax. That's not what the word means.

Re: Show HN: A Firefox extension to leave comments on any URL

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A probably better community.

In an age where everything other than hard left speech is quickly labeled 'hate speech', I think that any censorship-free areas will quickly be judged as having a 'bad community'. Have you ever actually tried Dissenter or Gab, or are you basing the 'bad community' off of what you've heard elsewhere?

I have tried it. The public feed given to me had something about "killing all trannies", putting back in Africa by force, climate change denial, and questioning why America doesn't yet arm everyone who isn't Muslim so the Muslim people can be shot on demand.

And I seriously wish I made this all up. This place is a violent cesspool.

Re: Show HN: A Firefox extension to leave comments on any URL

#89

The only way this can be useful is if everybody has it. Not having it available on Chrome is not a great start.

I fail to see any merit in the claim that mainstream adoption is necessary for a tool like this to have any value. You're not going to be using this tool for synchronous conversations between commenters, or even conversations at all. Any information you leave in the form of a comment is going to matter to the people who visit the site after you. You're also commenting about the website's content in question, not havi…

This kind of tool, to make sense, needs to have as many people as possible on it otherwise you'll see no comment on any site you open. You can indeed leave a comment yourself, but probably people won't if they see nobody's ever going to read them.

So that's why it's strange that such an extension, which I think does have a social aspect, would ignore 60% of browsers.

Re: Show HN: A Firefox extension to leave comments on any URL

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dissenter is pretty great for commenting on things that have heavy-handed censorship, like political YouTube videos. They recently created their own browser (a fork of Brave with all of the BAT sh*tcoin stuff removed) when Google and Firefox both censored their extension and it seems like it's lighter and faster than Chrome, at least in my testing.

"censored" Relax. That's not what the word means.

Actually it's the right context. They wanted to censor the comments.
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