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California’s mountain lion faces ‘extinction vortex’

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Re: California’s mountain lion faces ‘extinction vortex’

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> In addition, large-scale residential and commercial development could be prohibited or limited in mountain lion habitats within a region covering roughly a third of the state. It seems like something has to give. In particular, we can't have reasonable housing prices, a healthy mountain lion habitat and increased immigration and population (especially in California). Those three things are directly at odds with eac…

Actually, housing seems to be the lowest priority. No one is building west of 280 (for a number of reasons, including environmental ones). Attempts to build up instead of expand are thwarted by NIMBYs. They’ll complain about the streets being filled with parked cars (because 10 people live in a house) while railing against building large residential apartments in downtown areas because of “lack of infrastructure.” In…

Nit pik: there's a ton of development west of I-280. Just look at Google Maps. You may have in mind the Rancho Corral de Tierra nature preserve (https://www.nps.gov/goga/rcdt-factsheet.htm), which abuts I-280 for a long section at the north of the peninsula. But on the other side of that, especially along the coast, is significant development. Rancho Corral seems only loosely connected to other preserves, and in general the entire peninsula has significant development, just not very dense or obvious from the highway--on Google Maps be sure to zoom in so you can see the little communities and houses scattered around the lower-half of the peninsula, which is presumably why all those nature preserves cannot be merged. So the movement of animals from further south along the Santa Cruz Mountains is probably relatively restricted. That doesn't prevent mountain lions from making their way near and even into San Francisco, but in no way should the situation diminish concern for habit loss.

Re: California’s mountain lion faces ‘extinction vortex’

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In California, of all places!

California is full of the worst kinds of "crony capitalism" (that is, regulatory capture, a feature and not a bug of capitalism unfortunately), what do you mean?

I don't think that's an even remotely accurate statement of California. I think the problem is precisely the opposite--the 1960s and 1970s brought a raft of political and legal changes in California in response to crony capitalism. The irony is that in some respects, at least, the cure was worse than the disease.

In general the changes emphasized community involvement and participation in the application and enforcement of policy. But they arguably made this too easy. Take the California Environment Quality Act (CEQA), for example. Under CEQA anyone can challenge a development project regardless of the direct effect on them, and there are effectively no repercussions for abusing this.

San Francisco is a microcosm of the statewide problem. Almost everything the city does, from infrastructure projects to permit approvals, requires "community input", which activists effectively use to drag out deliberations on even minor matters for years. The approval process for the biggest changes in the city, such as the towers downtown and the Mission Bay development projects, began in the 1990s. Notably that was before the two dotcom bubbles and the housing crisis made everybody city planning experts and community activists. Such large scale development would be strangled at birth by activists today even though they're merely replacing dirty industrial sites and adding net housing (as opposed to the pre-1980s projects that literally razed communities and kicked people out onto the streets--e.g. the I-Hotel[1]).

So I think the problem isn't crony capitalism--not generally. I think a better description of this is mob rule reflecting sanctimonious populism. Some companies have become quite adept at staying under the radar--not to avoid the law, but to avoid the attention of activists and communities.[2] But I don't think we should confuse that sort of bureaucratic sophistication with cronyism, graft, rule avoidance, and similar types of behavior. California isn't even remotely comparable to states like New Jersey, Illinois, or Alabama in this regard; California companies are angelic by comparison.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Hotel_(San_Franc...

[2] Political leaders do this too for entirely pure-of-heart reasons. It's little known that the long-term plan for the Great Highway along the west coast of SF is for it to be demolished. Rather than attempting to mitigate coastal erosion along the southern end, they're simply going to close it. They "schemed" with California officials and the Federal government (who controls the beach and, I think, the technically the highway itself) to develop an environmental plan to store the habitat. This nominally comports with the express wishes of California and San Francisco voters. But if people actually caught wind of this everybody would freak out because the Great Highway is now heavily trafficked, especially during commute hours. So AFAICT there's a "conspiracy" by city politicians, environmentalists, and the Feds to formalize and set into the motion the long-term plan before anyone notices to effectively challenge it.

Re: California’s mountain lion faces ‘extinction vortex’

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

California is full of the worst kinds of "crony capitalism" (that is, regulatory capture, a feature and not a bug of capitalism unfortunately), what do you mean?

It just seemed to me that out of the entire United States, California was the state with the best environmentally conscious lawmakers out there.

You would think... First time I went there I had a version of the Paris Syndrome[1]. I was expecting beautiful, clean, and preserved nature and what I saw was oil refineries on the ocean (chevron in el segundo) water so filled with bacteria after it rains you will get hepatitis if you go in it, extreme vehicle pollution, oil drilling in the city [2]!

Granted I still like it there, but the illusion of California being an eco-friendly place was completely shot.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_syndrome [2] https://la.curbed.com/maps/oil-los-angeles-drill-sites-offsh...

Re: California’s mountain lion faces ‘extinction vortex’

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post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

California is full of the worst kinds of "crony capitalism" (that is, regulatory capture, a feature and not a bug of capitalism unfortunately), what do you mean?

I don't think that's an even remotely accurate statement of California. I think the problem is precisely the opposite--the 1960s and 1970s brought a raft of political and legal changes in California in response to crony capitalism. The irony is that in some respects, at least, the cure was worse than the disease. In general the changes emphasized community involvement and participation in the application and enforcem…

Well put. Talk to us about Caltrain DTX and SF Planning's holding of that project hostage in their quest to demolish the I-280 from Mariposa north.
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