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Re: Show HN: A Firefox extension to leave comments on any URL

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Post by tetizera »

syx wrote: post #65
rtpg wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wrote a chrome extension that went the opposite direction: hit the extension button and you would get a list of hacker news and reddit submissions for that URL. Was super useful for finding some cool comments on a page I’ve since moved to Firefox and gave up on the extension, but it might be an easy port...

you just described exactly what I've done a year ago [1] I always promised myself to rewrite it for Firefox but was too lazy. [1] https://github.com/syxanash/commentdat

I'd love to have this extension! Let us know if you ever pick up that extension. I do have one question though. Links on e-mails usually have "?utm_campaign=id_campaign&utm_source=nytimes" for example. Is it possible to avoid duplicates? To this day this is one of the major headaches for mods on Reddit. There's also the mobile links for the same news article.

Re: Show HN: A Firefox extension to leave comments on any URL

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Post by tetizera »

s9w wrote: post #58
TomMckenny wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So if I do not add support for unlimited anonymous comments at my own expense to my website, I am engaging in Orwellian oppression? Then allow me to comment on this repo and display those comments prominently. Because if I’m not allowed to add whatever opinion I want to the readme, I am being horribly oppressed.

I think your comment is misguided. I have neither used the term Orwellian or opressions, nor do I have any affiliation with this extension. I'm literally just saying that some people like to be able to say what they are allowed to, that this could be a tool to do so, and that that is OK. That was a direct response to the phrase "people still think unrestricted user content could somehow be a good idea", which implies…

The problem isn't free speech, but rather the distribution of illegal pornography and other illegal things.

Re: Show HN: A Firefox extension to leave comments on any URL

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Post by syx »

tetizera wrote: post #71
syx wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you just described exactly what I've done a year ago [1] I always promised myself to rewrite it for Firefox but was too lazy. [1] https://github.com/syxanash/commentdat

I'd love to have this extension! Let us know if you ever pick up that extension. I do have one question though. Links on e-mails usually have "?utm_campaign=id_campaign&utm_source=nytimes" for example. Is it possible to avoid duplicates? To this day this is one of the major headaches for mods on Reddit. There's also the mobile links for the same news article.

This was more of a kludge than a serious project, but glad I was not the only one to find this useful, will definitley continue working on it.

>Is it possible to avoid duplicates?

I thought about this as well in the past but never actually found a solution. Maybe someone here knows if there's research or an algorithm to uniquely identify the URL.

Edit: typos

Re: Show HN: A Firefox extension to leave comments on any URL

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Post by TomMckenny »

s9w wrote: post #58
TomMckenny wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So if I do not add support for unlimited anonymous comments at my own expense to my website, I am engaging in Orwellian oppression? Then allow me to comment on this repo and display those comments prominently. Because if I’m not allowed to add whatever opinion I want to the readme, I am being horribly oppressed.

I think your comment is misguided. I have neither used the term Orwellian or opressions, nor do I have any affiliation with this extension. I'm literally just saying that some people like to be able to say what they are allowed to, that this could be a tool to do so, and that that is OK. That was a direct response to the phrase "people still think unrestricted user content could somehow be a good idea", which implies…

I read it to mean “allowing unrestricted comments on a web page is a bad idea”

Perhaps you read it as “allowing unrestricted comments on a web page _or anywhere else_ is a bad idea”

But that second one has never been the case. People have alway been able to post responses on their own sites with links to the original. Many places like reddit are primarily that.

I think others maybe confusing the right to free speech with a right to vandalize.

Re: Show HN: A Firefox extension to leave comments on any URL

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Post by dsr_ »

siphon22 wrote: post #31

I love this idea, was thinking about how nice something like this would be myself. Sad it'll get no chance because of people going "muh nazis", even though it will work with any URL. It appears theres this assumption that it will be used for politics related stuff which i have no concern with myself. No neonazis will be gathering on the URLs that are meaningful to me and id say most people. Read.write.as blogs/posts…

Every discussion method eventually gets abused. Then the owner figures out what rules they want to enforce, and how.

Every website is one URL away. You can't rely on being relatively invisible.

"If I wrote blogs there, id like to see feedback and supportive comments" -- yes, but (a) if you write a blog, you can choose a platform that has comments and (b) eventually the Nazis or the pedophiles or the Nazi pedophiles will colonize your comments section when they discover you don't have any moderation rules. At which point, you will have three choices:

1. turn off comments

2. moderate comments

3. give up

Re: Show HN: A Firefox extension to leave comments on any URL

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Post by marcinzm »

julienreszka wrote: post #70
cachehit wrote: post #59

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Don't refer to freedom of speech like something everyone is obliged to provide. That's not what it means. https://xkcd.com/1357/

That exactly what it means

No it's not. I am in no way required to provide you a platform to talk through or to allow you to continue using a platform you've been using. All it means is that the government, key word, is not allowed to stop you from using a platform you are allowed by it's owners to use.

Re: Show HN: A Firefox extension to leave comments on any URL

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Post by skrowl »

antupis wrote: post #56
phoe-krk wrote: post #5

This sounds similar to the (in)famous Dissenter comment functionality. What are the differences?

A probably better community.

In an age where everything other than hard left speech is quickly labeled 'hate speech', I think that any censorship-free areas will quickly be judged as having a 'bad community'.

Have you ever actually tried Dissenter or Gab, or are you basing the 'bad community' off of what you've heard elsewhere?

Re: Show HN: A Firefox extension to leave comments on any URL

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Post by skrowl »

phoe-krk wrote: post #5

This sounds similar to the (in)famous Dissenter comment functionality. What are the differences?

Dissenter is pretty great for commenting on things that have heavy-handed censorship, like political YouTube videos.

They recently created their own browser (a fork of Brave with all of the BAT sh*tcoin stuff removed) when Google and Firefox both censored their extension and it seems like it's lighter and faster than Chrome, at least in my testing.

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