I think Telegram is open source, so they could just fork it
The server part isn't.
There are several alternatives where both sides are, though.
India reportedly wants to build its own WhatsApp for government communications
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Re: India reportedly wants to build its own WhatsApp for government communications
#22it will be hacked in a day
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
Agreed. The French government did exactly this!
... and it failed almost instantly. https://techcrunch.com/2019/04/19/security-flaw-in-french-go...
It seems like you want to suggest that Matrix is not secure - as others pointed out already the bug that was reported about has nothing to do with matrix and was fixed quickly.
Also you do not seem to understand that bugs and resulting security problems are something that happen every day - and get fixed quickly, usually, after discovery. This is what they mean when domain experts say things like "security is a process".
Also here we see a perfect example of why you want to use open source software for all governmental software: after a bug was found your admins can see the code changes and understand, if the bug still exists or not. Even more, only with open source software your admins and developers can read the code and search for bugs, too! This is what makes open source software a very good idea!
You are welcome to the world of free and open software, and after some reading about the basic principles I am sure you will understand why open source software is used by so many companies and organizations around the world.
BTW re the website you pointed to: I see a very annoying, totally absurd cookie dialog that makes me click at least five times and still does not give me a choice to not accept cookies at all. Please do not link to that website until they wake up and stop insulting visitors with this UI nightmare and learned that nobody needs to set cookies to publish content. Also this is not a website a pro developer would ever read or point to - always prefer to point to the primary source of information.
Re: India reportedly wants to build its own WhatsApp for government communications
#24What do they have to hide? Internal communication is usually great source for historians and posterity. Not to mention parliamentary investigative bodies.
"The rationale behind the move is to cut reliance on foreign entities, the report said, a concern that has somehow manifested amid U.S.’s ongoing tussle with Huawei and China."
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#25If this is their track record, it'd be like using public Twitter posts for government comms: https://gizmodo.com/simple-hack-turns-indias-massive-biometr...
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#26What are the chances they're going to use Java instead of Erlang?
Are Erlang engineers hard to find in India? They have a small but solid base in the UK, but the UK also hosts a few tech companies and I think a couple of the inventors and major contributors to the language, so it might just be an outlier.
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#27What are the chances they're going to use Java instead of Erlang?
Are Erlang engineers hard to find in India? They have a small but solid base in the UK, but the UK also hosts a few tech companies and I think a couple of the inventors and major contributors to the language, so it might just be an outlier.
From what I remember, Java engineers were everywhere in India.
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
... and it failed almost instantly. https://techcrunch.com/2019/04/19/security-flaw-in-french-go...
This was an issue with Python's email parser. Relevant issue : https://bugs.python.org/issue34155
If WhatsApp had a similar issue because of some 3rd party software they rely on I'm sure nobody would give them a free pass.
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
... and it failed almost instantly. https://techcrunch.com/2019/04/19/security-flaw-in-french-go...
It seems like you want to suggest that Matrix is not secure - as others pointed out already the bug that was reported about has nothing to do with matrix and was fixed quickly. Also you do not seem to understand that bugs and resulting security problems are something that happen every day - and get fixed quickly, usually, after discovery. This is what they mean when domain experts say things like "security is a proce…
The goal was to provide a secure whatsapp alternative for he French administration.
They failed the "secure" part - nothing else matters, and that does not mean that rolling your own should be discouraged - it means that these things are hard, and chances are your pet project will be less secure than established systems.
> Please do not link to that website until they wake up and stop insulting visitors with this UI nightmare
Had I known that this happend for your UA, I would not have - worked like a charm on my side.
Thank the French for that, who are the main reason behind the EU legislation about Cookies.
> Also this is not a website a pro developer would ever read or point to
Gatekeeping, are we? "Pro developers" don't waste time searching for some obscure original source for a meaningless online discussion - they pick the first result of their favorite search engine.
Re: India reportedly wants to build its own WhatsApp for government communications
#30An interesting aside: In 1998, India tested its nuclear weapons (Pokhran-II [1]). Almost immediately, US imposed sanctions. One of the terms of the sanction? "Bar the export of certain defense and technology material" [2]. I can't find a source but I do remember that IE used to ship with reduced encryption. Perhaps we have learnt some lessons since then :-) [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pokhran-II [2] http://edit…
What's the relationship between these two things? The export controls were broad, in place before 1998 and not specific to India.