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Have Smartphones Destroyed a Generation? (2017)

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Re: Have Smartphones Destroyed a Generation? (2017)

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More than a mental health crisis or go outside more, the biggest harm that social+smartphone has ever done is end of creating things . The new generation is spending huge amount of time in consumption and very little in creation. This is going to be a boon for the producers (book writers, movie makers etc) who will be in short supply for much larger consumption crowd. This will eventually be reflected in massive weal…

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More than a mental health crisis or go outside more, the biggest harm that social+smartphone has ever done is end of creating things . The new generation is spending huge amount of time in consumption and very little in creation. This is going to be a boon for the producers (book writers, movie makers etc) who will be in short supply for much larger consumption crowd. This will eventually be reflected in massive weal…

A greater fraction of people are creating text, photos, and video to be seen by other people than at any previous time in human history.

I guess it depends a lot on the question whether you call a short message about your neighbor's hairstyle or a photo of the food you are currently eating as "creation".

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Looking at most of that data, a lot of this seems to be a combination of a tanking economy/jobs market/gig economy, and a technology that allows one to feel more connected without having to spend money to go out. The iPhone has worn the continuing echoes of late stage capitalism like a glove, and in the same way the homeless use drugs to make their shitty lives more bearable, it seems to me people are doing the same…

How is the economy tanking?

"The economy" is doing fine, but that's not a very interesting bunch of numbers for most people. The private economy of the majority US households has been getting steadily worse for decades.

Re: Have Smartphones Destroyed a Generation? (2017)

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More than a mental health crisis or go outside more, the biggest harm that social+smartphone has ever done is end of creating things . The new generation is spending huge amount of time in consumption and very little in creation. This is going to be a boon for the producers (book writers, movie makers etc) who will be in short supply for much larger consumption crowd. This will eventually be reflected in massive weal…

Playing devils advocate. The consumer group has to make money from work, and in theory that work has to provide value to society. I think the amount of people doing creative pursuits has always been a minority, not everyone was a painter, writer or musician in the past which was partly why the art had value in the first place.

Re: Have Smartphones Destroyed a Generation? (2017)

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More than a mental health crisis or go outside more, the biggest harm that social+smartphone has ever done is end of creating things . The new generation is spending huge amount of time in consumption and very little in creation. This is going to be a boon for the producers (book writers, movie makers etc) who will be in short supply for much larger consumption crowd. This will eventually be reflected in massive weal…

Do you have a source for that? Young people have way more access to creation tools than ever before. Blogs (writing), memes (photo editing), vlogs (film creation), Instagram (photography)... Not to mention YouTube is the most incredible source of tutorials on just about every topic imaginable. The internet and smartphones have made all these cheaper/freer than ever before. Anyone with a creative itch has a ton of avenues to learn, share and monetize their creative interests. I find it hard to believe that young people are creating less than earlier generations.

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More than a mental health crisis or go outside more, the biggest harm that social+smartphone has ever done is end of creating things . The new generation is spending huge amount of time in consumption and very little in creation. This is going to be a boon for the producers (book writers, movie makers etc) who will be in short supply for much larger consumption crowd. This will eventually be reflected in massive weal…

Do you have some statistics to back that up? Without statistics it's pretty just s much meaningless about how kids these days are lazy... A complaint which every generation has made since long before smartphones existed.

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If/when I have kids, I think I'll be doing everything I can to keep them off smart phones (or at least, YouTube + social media + games like Fornite). All these platforms seem explicitly designed to exploit insecurities and encourage a mindless mob mentality. It's the antithesis of individualism and I cannot see how it could possibly improve one's life (at least, before you have the maturity to be comfortable in your…

If you don't give your kids smart phones you cut them off of people. It's a conundrum.

You will only be able to keep your kids off smart phones if you live in a community not using smart phones much for example the Amish. I think parents of the one percent could also create such a community for their children if they are diligent and choose the right private school.

My 6 year old son will go to a summer camp where smart phones are expressly forbidden. Not that I give him a smart phone but at least the older children won't have smart phones, too.

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More than a mental health crisis or go outside more, the biggest harm that social+smartphone has ever done is end of creating things . The new generation is spending huge amount of time in consumption and very little in creation. This is going to be a boon for the producers (book writers, movie makers etc) who will be in short supply for much larger consumption crowd. This will eventually be reflected in massive weal…

That is simply not true. All my generation could do was read (consume) books and create small useless projects that lead nowhere. There was no way to find likely minded people, cooperate and share.

Kids today can create many things: mod games, work on scientific project even start businesses... Some voluntary work done by teenagers is surpassing professional companies in quality. Even taking pictures with phone creates something.

And with niche hobbies one can get at some level (for hobbyst) just by watching a few hours of youtube videos. Again it is not "consumption" but learning.

Gaming is the same thing, kids are learning cooperation, new skills, husttle etc.

It is not just media consumption. Computers and internet do not work the way books or TV works. It is dialog, two way communication that takes user feedback.

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