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Brave Improves Its Ad-Blocker Performance with New Engine in Rust

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Re: Brave Improves Its Ad-Blocker Performance with New Engine in Rust

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I think Brave has the ability to save the web, it has a great model of blocking ads by default, at a lower level than the extensions do so it is much faster. I think Opera had/has this too.

Sure, Brave can block ads, but isn't the browser exploring injecting its own advertisements?

https://brave.com/brave-rewards/

I would read that.

Re: Brave Improves Its Ad-Blocker Performance with New Engine in Rust

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They replace other ad network ads with their own ~ads~ crypto currency . They monetize the content of others and don't tell them. If you have a youtube channel, they will swap out ads and collect the ad revenue without telling the channel that they're doing so. I'm not particularly impressed with their business. In fact I'm pretty disgusted with it.

None of what you said is true. I'm puzzled by the constant lies and FUD spread here against Brave. What exactly is the agenda?

There's no agenda, just proper reasoning. Think about it in terms of Bayesian probability: it's a cryptocurrency product, and pretty much everything in the crypto space is a scam, so right off the bat when you hear about Brave, before you even know anything your prior probability that it's a scam is 95%. Then they got busted 'keeping the money' and not telling the creators, and the posterior jumps to 99.5%. I know they mostly fixed that, but at that point the trust was gone and it's not worth anyone's time to give a second chance.

It sucks, but at the same time, if you're going to be an honest actor in crypto, you better cross every t and dot every i, because bad actors are everywhere and so smart people just assume bad faith and are arguably correct to do so.

Re: Brave Improves Its Ad-Blocker Performance with New Engine in Rust

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Yes? Generating and serving content isn't free. If you don't want the ads, don't visit the page or pay for an ad-free version.

Is it unethical to avoid looking at billboards? If not, what if I had a special pair of glasses that obscured such billboards or other physical advertising? It's not possible today, but not that hard to imagine in the near future. How are these situations different from blocking ads on the web?

To my knowledge, billboards don't fund roads. Unless they are the exclusive source of revenue for roads, the situations aren't really comparable.

Re: Brave Improves Its Ad-Blocker Performance with New Engine in Rust

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Is uBlock terrible?

Yes? Generating and serving content isn't free. If you don't want the ads, don't visit the page or pay for an ad-free version.

This ignores the actual issue with ads, which is tracking. Advertising has this huge system around it where your information is the commodity.

This means that advertising inherently is not something you "opt into" when you visit a page. You are being tracked everywhere you go.

That's the problem brave solves, but it accepts that removing ads without another system to reward content creators is important - hence BAT.

Re: Brave Improves Its Ad-Blocker Performance with New Engine in Rust

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I'm impressed with Brave. I've started using it as my primary browser (after a couple false starts a year or so ago) and it has all the best of Chrome without the worst. There is controversy about how Brave does stuff, and I agree there is some sketchy stuff they are doing (replacing ads with their own). I'm glad they are giving us a choice, though, and exploring different options for sites being able to makes some m…

Switched from Firefox to Brave in the last year across devices and not looking back (though I do miss containers!). Blocking ads and trackers by default is pretty much essential in 2019. The myth about ad replacement doesn't seem to want to die though! There is no ad replacement, though the roadmap says at some time in the future publishers who opt-in will have the option to have their ad-slots filled by Brave's priv…

It's not as good as containers, but as a replacement I use SessionBox chrome extension in Brave.. it mostly accomplishes the same purpose.

Re: Brave Improves Its Ad-Blocker Performance with New Engine in Rust

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I think that was a large factor, but I think constantly showing ads for Chrome to anyone who views google.com in a different browser and telling them their browser is bad was a bigger factor.

I mean also the fact that the browser most people used at that time was bad may have been a factor. Chrome was a noticeable step up from IE.

For me, Phoenix/Firebird/Firefox was a noticeable step up from IE, and Chrome was a noticeable step up from Firefox. Chrome did especially well relative to Firefox when I had a lot of tabs, and for JS-heavy sites.

I bounced back and forth several times:

* I tried it for a month in January 2010, and went back to Firefox because Chrome was slower and less stable: https://www.jefftk.com/p/google-chrome

* I tried it for ~6m in 2011, and switched back to Firefox because I missed side tabs: https://www.jefftk.com/p/side-tabs

* In early 2012 I switched back to Chrome, despite the lack of side tabs (which I still miss dearly) because it was enough more performant.

(Disclosure: I work for Google)

Re: Brave Improves Its Ad-Blocker Performance with New Engine in Rust

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I do a lot of web development and need the tools.

Which tools specifically that aren't available in Firefox?

It's more about the clunky UX than the tool itself. Eclipse support everything other IDEs support but who wants to use that?

Re: Brave Improves Its Ad-Blocker Performance with New Engine in Rust

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Is it unethical to avoid looking at billboards? If not, what if I had a special pair of glasses that obscured such billboards or other physical advertising? It's not possible today, but not that hard to imagine in the near future. How are these situations different from blocking ads on the web?

To my knowledge, billboards don't fund roads. Unless they are the exclusive source of revenue for roads, the situations aren't really comparable.

Ads don't fund the communication networks as far as I am aware. Last time I checked, my internet bill wasn't paid by me looking at ads.

Re: Brave Improves Its Ad-Blocker Performance with New Engine in Rust

#150

Can you use your own block list in Brave? Last time I checked on mobile I couldn't see how to. If not that seems like a major downside compared to other browsers.

You can install Chrome extensions, including uBlock origin and others.
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