Thin yet Repairable Devices: HP Proves They Exist
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#2I think to get the extra mm of thinness of MacBooks, it takes away all space to squeeze that out. Although they are both thin one is much tougher to achieve.
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#3But should they? I suspect a majority of the market would take a few extra mm of thickness for a durable laptop with a durable battery that would last a few more years.
But instead manufacturers of laptops, phones, and tablets are putting in substandard batteries to help ensure you come back in a few years for a new one. Especially evil is when there's no screws and they epoxy the battery.
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#4I honestly had no idea HP still made laptops — or that they were still in the consumer hardware business at all.
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#5I honestly had no idea HP still made laptops — or that they were still in the consumer hardware business at all.
The question is whether they are still complete garbage. I'm not the only one who absolutely refuses to buy anything branded HP.
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#6I honestly had no idea HP still made laptops — or that they were still in the consumer hardware business at all.
HP is the largest laptop manufacturer in the world by units shipped.
Re: Thin yet Repairable Devices: HP Proves They Exist
#7But should they? I suspect a majority of the market would take a few extra mm of thickness for a durable laptop with a durable battery that would last a few more years. But instead manufacturers of laptops, phones, and tablets are putting in substandard batteries to help ensure you come back in a few years for a new one. Especially evil is when there's no screws and they epoxy the battery.
> But instead manufacturers of laptops, phones, and tablets are putting in substandard batteries to help ensure you come back in a few years for a new one.
which manufacturer is it they're buying from that's substandard, who should they be buying from, and how are those "standard" companies the standard when they have to be making a tiny slice of the batteries on the planet if they're not used in laptops, phones or tablets? in fact, what device would i find one of their standard-quality batteries in?
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#8I honestly had no idea HP still made laptops — or that they were still in the consumer hardware business at all.
The question is whether they are still complete garbage. I'm not the only one who absolutely refuses to buy anything branded HP.
The Spectre laptops are pretty dang nice and are Linux-friendly. The dark-and-copper one looks fantastic, too. I'd be using one right now, instead of a Thinkpad T480, if they didn't put Ctrl and Fn in the wrong places. (My hands just can't re-learn that one.)
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#9Slightly off topic, but do people prefer metal laptop cases as seen in this HP elitebook? Aluminum looks great, but I find it way more slippery than carbon or even matte plastic. Soft shells are so much more comfortable to hold than metal.
The disappointing thing is Apple managed to draw a lot of otherwise sensible designs from the practicality of the 90s to an aesthetics-first approach. As an old Thinkpad user, I am baffled by the design decisions in the Macbook-Pro line of products, from the shell to thinness and repairability.
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#10Slightly off topic, but do people prefer metal laptop cases as seen in this HP elitebook? Aluminum looks great, but I find it way more slippery than carbon or even matte plastic. Soft shells are so much more comfortable to hold than metal. The disappointing thing is Apple managed to draw a lot of otherwise sensible designs from the practicality of the 90s to an aesthetics-first approach. As an old Thinkpad user, I am…
I have an hp plastic elitebook laptop (made in 2017) and am baffled by the flexness and lack of confidence in the case compared to my MacBook. I’ve also tried using some of the well-regarded thinkpad models and dealt with plastic falling off side panels and snagging when trying to slide it into backpacks.
I think Apple makes an assumption that if you want something with more protection / grippyness, there’s a whole world of 3rd party case vendors happy to solve that problem.