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FAA Finds New Risk on 737 Max, Orders Boeing to Make Changes

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Re: FAA Finds New Risk on 737 Max, Orders Boeing to Make Changes

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Post by bdamm »

_jal wrote: post #3

Aside from the 737, what other Boeing planes have seen significant design work recently? I'm becoming more curious about those.

Boeing has many areas of work, including autonomous drone taxis. You'd need to be a bit more specific. Even the venerable 747 is getting work with a new passenger version (Air Force 1) that includes up-rated engines.

Re: FAA Finds New Risk on 737 Max, Orders Boeing to Make Changes

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Post by ngcc_hk »

mehrdadn wrote: post #4
_jal wrote: post #3

Aside from the 737, what other Boeing planes have seen significant design work recently? I'm becoming more curious about those.

787? Thought not sure how recently you're referring to.

Quite like 787. Even better than 380. Hope it is good.

Re: FAA Finds New Risk on 737 Max, Orders Boeing to Make Changes

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Post by ceejayoz »

bdamm wrote: post #11
_jal wrote: post #3

Aside from the 737, what other Boeing planes have seen significant design work recently? I'm becoming more curious about those.

Boeing has many areas of work, including autonomous drone taxis. You'd need to be a bit more specific. Even the venerable 747 is getting work with a new passenger version (Air Force 1) that includes up-rated engines.

Fundamentally, the question's going to be "when did this rot set in, and how many aircraft does it affect?"

Re: FAA Finds New Risk on 737 Max, Orders Boeing to Make Changes

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Post by dsfyu404ed »

kjar wrote: post #5

This plane appears to be a (sorta) flying dumpster fire rushed to market against Airbus with tragic consequences. One design flaw after another is MAX failure.

The industry is pretty homogeneous and somewhat of a revolving door between the few OEMs. What are the odds that the code on this plane is orders of magnitude worse (in terms of code quality) than every other similar bit of code in the sky?

Edit. I should have to say this but I'm not defending Boeing here. I'm saying it's not at al unforeseeable that the other planes, even ones by other manufacturers are just as bad. Clearly they thought nothing was abnormal about this one until it started falling out of the sky. I see this kind of like diesel-gate. If one of them is cheating they're probably all cheating.

Re: FAA Finds New Risk on 737 Max, Orders Boeing to Make Changes

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Post by blackflame7000 »

mevile wrote: post #2

I wonder if they're just now finding new things by simply running the software in a simulator, what more will they find, and what does this say to their continued assurances as to the safety of this plane?

On the flip side, all airplanes have flaws to some degree or else they would never crash. A deep audit of everything in the end should make things safer. And Boeing also has a solid safety record on their other models 777 and 767

Re: FAA Finds New Risk on 737 Max, Orders Boeing to Make Changes

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Post by blackflame7000 »

ralph84 wrote: post #6
_jal wrote: post #3

Aside from the 737, what other Boeing planes have seen significant design work recently? I'm becoming more curious about those.

Boeing's other current big commercial aircraft development program is the 777X. They are working through engine issues before first flight. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_777X

Boeing doesn’t make engines, GE does

Re: FAA Finds New Risk on 737 Max, Orders Boeing to Make Changes

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Post by vardump »

qrbLPHiKpiux wrote: post #13

The computers are all part of the problem with this and it's a trend I've noticed for a long time now. Regarding critical output and human input.

I don't think it's a problem that there are less crashes than ever. Even though traffic keeps increasing.

Re: FAA Finds New Risk on 737 Max, Orders Boeing to Make Changes

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Post by closetohome »

dsfyu404ed wrote: post #15
kjar wrote: post #5

This plane appears to be a (sorta) flying dumpster fire rushed to market against Airbus with tragic consequences. One design flaw after another is MAX failure.

The industry is pretty homogeneous and somewhat of a revolving door between the few OEMs. What are the odds that the code on this plane is orders of magnitude worse (in terms of code quality) than every other similar bit of code in the sky? Edit. I should have to say this but I'm not defending Boeing here. I'm saying it's not at al unforeseeable that the other planes, even ones by other manufacturers are just as bad.…

Or conversely what are the odds that the others have similar undiscovered or undisclosed issues?
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