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Re: Why is Stack Overflow trying to start audio?

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Sure you can, the same way TV shows have done it - by subtly incorporating it into the text of the article.

At that point I think most people wouldn't care. Nobody is offended because James Bond wears an Omega watch. When it is doing not so subtly then it becomes weird (e.g.: transformers)

I am. I despise that. It's the worst kind of advertising.

Re: Why is Stack Overflow trying to start audio?

#56

Aside from the obvious usability benefits, this kind of thing makes it abundantly clear why much of the web has gone to javascript dependent SPAs. If you need JS to run the site, then you also have to leave it on to be tracked/fingerprinted. Kind of makes sense why companies like Google and Facebook have invested so much in creating open-source front-end frameworks. The ROI is probably phenomenal. I get that stackove…

> If you need JS to run the site

... Then I move on. Those dorky little crapware widgets are basically never worth looking at in any case, and I do take that sort of strategic tooling decision as a signal that I probably don't want to accept the 'bargain' being offered.

Re: Why is Stack Overflow trying to start audio?

#57

I wonder if the top brass at alphabet ever worry that their trillion dollar empire is based on fragile foundations like web audio fingerprinting, etc. that sure would keep me up at night. obviously, i know google does more, but it seems like a large chunk of their revenue must be dependent on shady technical tricks like these working.

They realized it was a risk so they built their own browser to have more control. And it worked. Only now, users are wising up and moving to Firefox.

Re: Why is Stack Overflow trying to start audio?

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In most cases, I don’t think it’s ads as concept that’s the problem. If websites only had static ads in the sidebar, I question how many people would bother with ad blockers. But when ads block content; include flashing animations, audio, and video; and take up more layout space on a site than the actual content; then people have had enough.

Are you disagreeing with the person you replied to? Your tone suggests that you are, but the content of your post seems to being agreeing.

I disagree that most people use ad blockers because they “don’t want to see [any] ads.”

Meaning, if advertisers hadn’t built more and more intrusive ads and had stuck with static ads that don’t severely harm the UX, then I doubt most users would bother with ad blockers.

Re: Why is Stack Overflow trying to start audio?

#59
post #56

Aside from the obvious usability benefits, this kind of thing makes it abundantly clear why much of the web has gone to javascript dependent SPAs. If you need JS to run the site, then you also have to leave it on to be tracked/fingerprinted. Kind of makes sense why companies like Google and Facebook have invested so much in creating open-source front-end frameworks. The ROI is probably phenomenal. I get that stackove…

> If you need JS to run the site ... Then I move on. Those dorky little crapware widgets are basically never worth looking at in any case, and I do take that sort of strategic tooling decision as a signal that I probably don't want to accept the 'bargain' being offered.

That's fair, my point is that in many cases (a rapidly growing number of cases), the entire site is JS. If you need to service, then you have to accept the tracking.

Re: Why is Stack Overflow trying to start audio?

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post #55

Did anyone checked how much data from our data plan cede to advertising? I bet it's 30%-40%.

I have been using uBlock Origin for about three years and I browse the web heavily (4-6 hours/day). In that time it has blocked 13% of requests (10% on mobile).

I don't have enough info to quantify the amount of data blocked though.

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