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YouTube Lets Users Override Recommendations After Criticism

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Re: YouTube Lets Users Override Recommendations After Criticism

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Post by Lewton »

izzydata wrote: post #14
crb wrote: post #13

I'd be happy if it would stop recommending I watch videos I have already watched all the way through.

I'd also appreciate if it went back to recommending videos similar to the current video I was on instead of having the same recommendations on every video now.

This was the best for discovering new content.... Ah, the good old days

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Post by switchbak »

makosdv wrote: post #16

I just flat out stopped using their recommendations a while ago. I only look at my subscriptions feed.

Maybe I notice it because I use it more now, but it's shocking how bad it's become. I often get a heavy stream of suggestions for: ancient videos, and videos I've already watched. Throw in some clickbait and outrage focused content.

Then it seems to try to make me more extreme in some way (flat earther, hardcore gamer, etc) based on perhaps one partial watch of a semi-related video.

Surely there's some folks at Google who can see the raging dumpster fire this has become? I realize it's hard given all the competing interests (esp. advertisers), but this is horrendous.

As bad as it is, Netflix's suggestions are almost worse. I think these companies are optimizing on metrics that (ostensibly) show an improved experience while in reality they're destroying almost all user enjoyment.

Is it really a good thing that I "engage" longer with Netflix/YouTube trying to find something to watch with their terrible suggestions? (vs quickly navigating to a better video?)

Re: YouTube Lets Users Override Recommendations After Criticism

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Post by buzzert »

This doesn’t really solve some of the more concerning things about recommendations, which is the gradual ease into more extreme content. i.e., “super Mario speedrun” to “Top 10 speedrunning fails” to “Super Mario speedrunner gets owned” to “Why women shouldn’t be allowed to play video games” or other such hogwash.

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Post by cronix »

izzydata wrote: post #14
crb wrote: post #13

I'd be happy if it would stop recommending I watch videos I have already watched all the way through.

I'd also appreciate if it went back to recommending videos similar to the current video I was on instead of having the same recommendations on every video now.

No kidding. You can hit refresh as much as you want and it keeps showing the exact same recommendations. Very annoying, but not nearly as bad as all of the censorship going on, imho.

Re: YouTube Lets Users Override Recommendations After Criticism

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Post by switchbak »

vernie wrote: post #2

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Hell, I'd even enjoy a filter that analyzes the audio and filters out anything that's below a given (low) bar of sensible discourse. I wonder how hard it would be to categorize the really awful rhetoric? It's very formulaic.

Maybe give me a slider like the old SlashDot days so I could fine tune it depending on my mood :)

Re: YouTube Lets Users Override Recommendations After Criticism

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Post by swebs »

switchbak wrote: post #22
makosdv wrote: post #16

I just flat out stopped using their recommendations a while ago. I only look at my subscriptions feed.

Maybe I notice it because I use it more now, but it's shocking how bad it's become. I often get a heavy stream of suggestions for: ancient videos, and videos I've already watched. Throw in some clickbait and outrage focused content. Then it seems to try to make me more extreme in some way (flat earther, hardcore gamer, etc) based on perhaps one partial watch of a semi-related video. Surely there's some folks at Googl…

>I think these companies are optimizing on metrics that (ostensibly) show an improved experience

They're optimizing for highest profits. For Netflix, that means showing you videos with the lowest licensing fees. For Youtube, that means showing videos where the uploader has paid to boost it.

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