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Re: Getting shot by a handgun

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aside from the ease of sound suppressing them, and the small size of the weapons, there is a reason some of the best hit squads in the world use the .22lr! Admittedly, a .22WMR is pretty much a different animal than the .22lr. Out of a rifle, it would have probably been a through and through, assuming a FMJ bullet -- you'd probably get 2000fps for a 40gr. A JSP might not have, and out of a Ruger Single Six, it's a lo…

Your post is nearly indecipherable for a non-expert.

I never expected to hear that on HN.

Re: Getting shot by a handgun

#53
post #13

Interesting, but I really don't think this belongs here.

I think his impassive, detailed, technical description/narrative will chime with a lot of people here, in a way that it wouldn't at other communities.

I found this disturbingly fascinating in a similar manner to reading autopsy or accident reports. It was clear and explained a process that I wasn't familiar with even though I shoot a .22 target pistol and .22 target rifle. Between the linked article and some of the comments it gave me a new found respect for my peashooters.

Re: Getting shot by a handgun

#54
post #8

Speaking from years of experience working as an ER nurse in the Chicago ghetto... He drew a short straw on the weapon of choice. .22 caliber slugs tend to bounce around inside a person. Anything carrying more energy would likely have shattered his scapula, and gone clean through him. The energy of the slug wouldn't have been used up bouncing around his chest. I took care of a person shot in the ankle with a .22. The…

Aside from the ease of sound suppressing them, and the small size of the weapons, there is a reason some of the best hit squads in the world use the .22lr! Admittedly, a .22WMR is pretty much a different animal than the .22lr. Out of a rifle, it would have probably been a through and through, assuming a FMJ bullet -- you'd probably get 2000fps for a 40gr. A JSP might not have, and out of a Ruger Single Six, it's a lo…

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Re: Getting shot by a handgun

#55
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aside from the ease of sound suppressing them, and the small size of the weapons, there is a reason some of the best hit squads in the world use the .22lr! Admittedly, a .22WMR is pretty much a different animal than the .22lr. Out of a rifle, it would have probably been a through and through, assuming a FMJ bullet -- you'd probably get 2000fps for a 40gr. A JSP might not have, and out of a Ruger Single Six, it's a lo…

Your post is nearly indecipherable for a non-expert.

I'm not an expert by any stretch and know virtually nothing about firearms, but I was able to decipher "fps" (feet per second), and 40gr (a 40-grain bullet). As for the other jargon, .22lr and .22WMR are pretty obviously types of weapons and were readily googlable in about 5 seconds.

I don't really see a huge complexity issue here.

Re: Getting shot by a handgun

#56
post #43
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aside from the ease of sound suppressing them, and the small size of the weapons, there is a reason some of the best hit squads in the world use the .22lr! Admittedly, a .22WMR is pretty much a different animal than the .22lr. Out of a rifle, it would have probably been a through and through, assuming a FMJ bullet -- you'd probably get 2000fps for a 40gr. A JSP might not have, and out of a Ruger Single Six, it's a lo…

Sound suppression is largely a function of relatively slowly bleeding off the gas that results from combustion. There is not much powder in a 22lr (22 long-rifle) round, which is why it is easily suppressible. I can make no particular comment as to the frequency of their use by the best hit squads in the world. The subject of the article was shot with a 22WMR (Winchester Magnum Rimfire) round. This round can use the…

The story describes a single-action revolver, which the Single Six is not

The Single Six is, in fact a single-action revolver. See manufacturer's product page: http://www.ruger.com/products/newModelSingleSix/firearms.htm...

Re: Getting shot by a handgun

#57

Maybe I'm missing something, but what kind of units are "foot pounds per square inch"? That's definitely not a pressure...

A foot pound is the amount of force required to move a pound of material one foot. By adding a surface area it becomes a measure of pressure.

A foot pound is the amount of energy used when applying one pound of force over the distance of one foot (specifically, with the direction of the force being the same as the direction of movement).

So, if you use one pound of force to move an object one foot, you have used one foot pound of energy (or about 1.355 Joules).

Pounds per surface area is pressure. Foot pounds per surface area is something else.

Re: Getting shot by a handgun

#58
post #43
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aside from the ease of sound suppressing them, and the small size of the weapons, there is a reason some of the best hit squads in the world use the .22lr! Admittedly, a .22WMR is pretty much a different animal than the .22lr. Out of a rifle, it would have probably been a through and through, assuming a FMJ bullet -- you'd probably get 2000fps for a 40gr. A JSP might not have, and out of a Ruger Single Six, it's a lo…

Sound suppression is largely a function of relatively slowly bleeding off the gas that results from combustion. There is not much powder in a 22lr (22 long-rifle) round, which is why it is easily suppressible. I can make no particular comment as to the frequency of their use by the best hit squads in the world. The subject of the article was shot with a 22WMR (Winchester Magnum Rimfire) round. This round can use the…

> There is not much powder in a 22lr (22 long-rifle) round, which is why it is easily suppressible.

Also, .22LR ammunition is generally subsonic outside of hotter loadings. This avoids the characteristic supersonic crack of higher velocity cartridges.

Re: Getting shot by a handgun

#59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A foot pound is the amount of force required to move a pound of material one foot. By adding a surface area it becomes a measure of pressure.

Any amount of material can be moved any distance with an infinitesimal amount of force, given enough time... or maybe I'm missing something.

It's the amount of energy required to lift one pound vertically by one foot, or the amount of momentum a one pound object gains by falling one foot in a vacuum.

Re: Getting shot by a handgun

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your post is nearly indecipherable for a non-expert.

I never expected to hear that on HN.

Indeed. The front page is riddled with all kinds of alphabet soup. FSM, LLVM, RegExp just to name a few. I'd kind of assumed that most of us here have learned to cope with unfamiliar terms either by dismissing or researching them.
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