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Re: Bottle: A Bitcoin SV Browser

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Post by CryptoPunk »

onion-soup wrote: post #97
truantbuick wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This post is running around BSV-associated social media outlets. [1] [2] BSV is a project almost entirely propped up by a billionaire gambling tycoon named Calvin Ayre who is promoting a known con-artist named Craig Wright [3] as the inventor of Bitcoin. They promote BitcoinSV, which came into existence last November as the "One True Bitcoin". They are invested in massive astro-turfing for publicity and to lend thems…

Stop spreading misinformation. Bitcoin SV is restoration of the original protocol. BSV can do thousands of transactions per second whereas btc can do only 4. They both share same blockchain until 2017. Now think again, what will real businesses choose, a crippled fake bitcoin (btc) or massively scalable real bitcoin (bsv)?

Bitcoin SV is not Bitcoin. It looks like a sophisticated attempt to co-opt "Satoshi's Vision", and in doing so, delegitimize real contenders to BTC, like Bitcoin Cash.

The rhetoric used to promote Bitcoin SV is very similar to that used to promote Bitcoin Cash, but it also adds a lot of anti-cypherpunk arguments like anonymity being criminal, censorship being in line with the original purpose of Bitcoin, and Bitcoin being meant to operate under the centralized control of governments:

https://medium.com/@craig_10243/drugs-fraud-and-murder-ddf12...

All of the founding documents of Bitcoin directly refute these fraudulent claims.

Re: Bottle: A Bitcoin SV Browser

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Post by bdcravens »

dang wrote: post #70

Commenters have objected that this is BitcoinSV rather than Bitcoin, so I put SV in the title above. I don't actually know what that means, so let me know if I got something wrong.

SV is a fork of a fork (Bitcoin Cash). Many Bitcoin SV advocates get pretty uptight that theirs is the original (based on philosophical differences with Bitcoin development over time) and less of a fork than a reclaiming of the original "vision" (I know it sounds like a bit of convoluted logic ... if it quacks like a duck ....)

Re: Bottle: A Bitcoin SV Browser

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Post by jurassic12 »

ghostpepper wrote: post #109
onion-soup wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wrong. Bitcoin SV follows the whitepaper the most

The OP's comment was that bitcoin SV is not the bitcoin that most people know as bitcoin, which is true: of all the people who even know what bitcoin is, 99% of them think of BTC as bitcoin. OP said nothing about how closely it follows the whitepaper.

>bitcoin SV is not the bitcoin that most people know as bitcoin

Most people cant see the difference between bitcoin and an altcoin (i.e. Ethereum) transaction. Most people haven't read the whitepaper and havent figured out the technological and economic model of bitcoin protocol ,independently of which implementation we talking about being it BTC , BCH or BSV.

The main protocol is there it follows the whitepaper , p2p cash that can be global money BTC cant be global money. BTC main selling point is being mined in a decentralized way and the brand name , its utility as money has disappeared in 2017.

Re: Bottle: A Bitcoin SV Browser

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Post by jurassic12 »

MuffinFlavored wrote: post #83

> Unlike the cloud based Internet where it's easy to get away with uploading illegal content, Blockchain remembers forever, and because the content will stay on the blockchain forever with your signature, you don't even have the deniability when you get caught. How could you be traced if you are on an anonymous network and create an anonymous one-time-use wallet?

On-off ramps aka exchanges , kyc , unless you mine your bitcoins in a very secret way

Re: Bottle: A Bitcoin SV Browser

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Post by jurassic12 »

droth wrote: post #91

Wow. This is truly phenomenal. I thought Bitcoin was a worthless ponzi scheme. Really looking forward to seeing Bitcoin SV progress.

BTC has turnen unfortunately in a ponzi. the minining rewards on the next halving might kill it. Lets hope people are aware of this.

Re: Bottle: A Bitcoin SV Browser

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Post by satuenpoo »

Bitcoin SV is the original fully intact Bitcoin protocol.

People seem to forget that Bitcoin is a "chain of digital signatures" and BTC is not longer that due to SegWit hashes.

Also, for anyone else saying that "BSV" is a "fork of a fork"... then so is actually each of the other networks.

A fork has 2 outputs and both resulting chains are "forks".

The fake Bitcoin (SegWit BTC) kept the ticker symbol and name.

Eventually this will catch up and Bitcoin SV will exterminate the BTC network.

Within 1 to 2 years there will only be "Bitcoin" and it will the BSV chain.

Do your own research and be careful.

Re: Bottle: A Bitcoin SV Browser

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Post by mrsnuffy »

apo wrote: post #69

Highly misleading. This runs on an alternative network called Bitcoin SV. It's most definitely not Bitcoin, but a fork of a fork of a fork. Amusing really, because the "SV" stands for Satoshi's vision. The founder, Craig Wright has been bamboozling people for a long time with his nonsense. It's so long ago that most have forgotten, but the real Satoshi weighed in on a pretty heated argument about whether the Bitcoin…

Bitcoin SV is most definitely bitcoin.

It is simply the original bitcoin protocol, ie. with all the stupid things that were added to "BTC" since 2009 removed.

... that makes it infinitely scalable and useful like bitcoin was supposed to be, not just for money, for data storage, and for computation.

No Segwit No RBF No block size limit No limits on scripts or data sizes

BTC is useless in comparison... and the 'ad hominem' will only cover this up for so long.

Re: Bottle: A Bitcoin SV Browser

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Post by mrsnuffy »

truantbuick wrote: post #58
phaser wrote: post #49

Please note this is hosted on the BitcoinSV (BSV) network, which is not the same as the Bitcoin network that we all know as BTC. BitcoinSV has much bigger blocks than Bitcoin, which is probably why this idea is possible. While the same idea could be applied for the original Bitcoin network, that is far more popular, it would be highly impractical as blocks are smaller and transaction costs are higher. I don't want to…

This post is running around BSV-associated social media outlets. [1] [2] BSV is a project almost entirely propped up by a billionaire gambling tycoon named Calvin Ayre who is promoting a known con-artist named Craig Wright [3] as the inventor of Bitcoin. They promote BitcoinSV, which came into existence last November as the "One True Bitcoin". They are invested in massive astro-turfing for publicity and to lend thems…

>propped up by

This is where you are wrong ;)

Re: Bottle: A Bitcoin SV Browser

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Post by mrsnuffy »

ghostpepper wrote: post #109
onion-soup wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wrong. Bitcoin SV follows the whitepaper the most

The OP's comment was that bitcoin SV is not the bitcoin that most people know as bitcoin, which is true: of all the people who even know what bitcoin is, 99% of them think of BTC as bitcoin. OP said nothing about how closely it follows the whitepaper.

>99% of them think of BTC as bitcoin

They do ... it's going to be very interesting when more people start to figure out that their BTC coins are not very useful bitcoins.

Re: Bottle: A Bitcoin SV Browser

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Post by ghostpepper »

verroq wrote: post #103
dang wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok, have a space. Anything else?

Looks like a lot of new accounts astroturfing this submission? They are coming from here: https://www.reddit.com/r/bitcoincashSV/comments/c5eg27/its_t...

Interesting that some of the top comments on that reddit thread seem to at least be encouraging commenters to follow the etiquette here... polite astroturfing is better than impolite maybe?

> There’s a much different tone of discourse there, so be sure to leave your ad hominems and hero worship behind.

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