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Re: Bottle: A Bitcoin SV Browser

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Post by asciimo »

franlellsl wrote: post #76
apo wrote: post #69

Highly misleading. This runs on an alternative network called Bitcoin SV. It's most definitely not Bitcoin, but a fork of a fork of a fork. Amusing really, because the "SV" stands for Satoshi's vision. The founder, Craig Wright has been bamboozling people for a long time with his nonsense. It's so long ago that most have forgotten, but the real Satoshi weighed in on a pretty heated argument about whether the Bitcoin…

The network itself has no name. The network protocol has a name - Bitcoin. The exchange ticker BTC is for the altered Bitcoin protocol now called Bitcoin Core or Segwit. The exchange ticker BSV is for the restored (not fully restored yet) Bitcoin protocol. The bottle browser and the whole Metanet can only run on the original Bitcoin protocol which is supported by the node software developed by nChain named Bitcoin SV…

Bitcoin (BTC) is Bitcoin. Saying it's "altered" is like saying that Hacker News is "altered" because its code has evolved over the years. Saying BSV is the "restored" Bitcoin protocol is like saying retrohackernews.com is the "restored" Hacker News because it runs on an old fork of Hacker News. That doesn't make it Hacker News.

I'm not saying that Bitcoin has become good or bad; I'm saying it's Bitcoin. BSV folks spend a lot of time and bytes trying to convince others that they're the real deal, and that Craig Wright is Satoshi Nakamoto. It doesn't matter. If BSV is superior to Bitcoin, it should prevail through its own merit, not through language gymnastics in online forums.

Re: Bottle: A Bitcoin SV Browser

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Post by marsface »

apo wrote: post #69

Highly misleading. This runs on an alternative network called Bitcoin SV. It's most definitely not Bitcoin, but a fork of a fork of a fork. Amusing really, because the "SV" stands for Satoshi's vision. The founder, Craig Wright has been bamboozling people for a long time with his nonsense. It's so long ago that most have forgotten, but the real Satoshi weighed in on a pretty heated argument about whether the Bitcoin…

I think that what is misleading is to say that what is not BTC is not bitcoin. Also misleading is to call the metanet or bottle "DNS in the blockchain" and to try to make a broken syllogism using a post by Satoshi, pushing people to think that satoshi would be against bottle or metanet. Please, I recommend anyone who do not want to be limited by the mind police to dig more and think for themselves.

Re: Bottle: A Bitcoin SV Browser

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Post by MuffinFlavored »

> Unlike the cloud based Internet where it's easy to get away with uploading illegal content, Blockchain remembers forever, and because the content will stay on the blockchain forever with your signature, you don't even have the deniability when you get caught.

How could you be traced if you are on an anonymous network and create an anonymous one-time-use wallet?

Re: Bottle: A Bitcoin SV Browser

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Post by ghostpepper »

shilch wrote: post #72
apo wrote: post #69

Highly misleading. This runs on an alternative network called Bitcoin SV. It's most definitely not Bitcoin, but a fork of a fork of a fork. Amusing really, because the "SV" stands for Satoshi's vision. The founder, Craig Wright has been bamboozling people for a long time with his nonsense. It's so long ago that most have forgotten, but the real Satoshi weighed in on a pretty heated argument about whether the Bitcoin…

It uses "Bitcoin" to refer to the protocol, not the BTC network. People fought about the name "Bitcoin" for ages and everybody has their own opinion about this topic. The network that you refer to as Bitcoin has forked several times as well and least resembles the original protocol and idea when compared to BCH or BSV. OTOH the market values it the highest. > Someone created a block chain and network for mass data st…

It's actually the very first text on the page:

> Did you know that you can upload files directly to the Bitcoin network, as permanent, immutable, and monetizable Bitcoin transactions?

Re: Bottle: A Bitcoin SV Browser

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Post by rolltiide »

ghostpepper wrote: post #80
rolltiide wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

BSV is for an old version of the bitcoin protocol. People launch these daily. There is a pre-2013 patch version of the bitcoin protocol too. People play around with it for kicks, because the exploits are already known. Maybe some exchange trades it. This is just called an old version, due to consensus. Ideology is just a distraction.

There are quite a few projects being built using BitcoinSV compared to any of the other "old versions" though, right?

I never compared that specific thing and dont care to.

If I have a file so hot that I cant even store it on Mega or a free decentralized storage file system

Then I know that BitcoinSV is a public dumping ground I can use

Re: Bottle: A Bitcoin SV Browser

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Post by dang »

shilch wrote: post #74
dang wrote: post #70

Commenters have objected that this is BitcoinSV rather than Bitcoin, so I put SV in the title above. I don't actually know what that means, so let me know if I got something wrong.

It uses the Bitcoin protocol and operates on the Bitcoin SV network (notice the space) by default.

Ok, have a space. Anything else?

Re: Bottle: A Bitcoin SV Browser

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Post by RustyRussell »

kinghajj wrote: post #78
shilch wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It uses "Bitcoin" to refer to the protocol, not the BTC network. People fought about the name "Bitcoin" for ages and everybody has their own opinion about this topic. The network that you refer to as Bitcoin has forked several times as well and least resembles the original protocol and idea when compared to BCH or BSV. OTOH the market values it the highest. > Someone created a block chain and network for mass data st…

Except for an early hard fork due to a transaction verification bug that allowed for infinite Bitcoins to be created, the main Bitcoin chain, as implemented by the Bitcoin Core client, has never forked, to my knowledge. It also seems disingenuous to claim that it doesn't resemble the original protocol, when the block size cap that the forks adjust, was put into place by Satoshi himself.

FWIW, that was a soft fork, since it's backward compatible. It did cause a brief chain fork, however.
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