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Bottle: A Bitcoin SV Browser

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Re: Bottle: A Bitcoin SV Browser

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Post by jacobroyquebec »

ismatopius wrote: post #18
jacobroyquebec wrote: post #6

>And because it's on the blockchain, ownership is provable, the content is permanent, and it can be directly monetized forever. How can content be monetized foreved if it costs something to upload (send a transaction to create the block) but nothing to browser (navigating through the blockchain costs nothing)?

The author of the content can be tipped, because he can access the address used for posting. Also, content can be encrypted and decryption, after payment, can be automated.

Thanks, makes sense now!

Re: Bottle: A Bitcoin SV Browser

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Post by voodoosurfer »

qz_ wrote: post #5

Certainly an interesting idea, but I think you're raising the barrier to entry by not simply implementing this as a browser extension. By having to develop a completely separate browser you're wasting a lot of time and resources that could otherwise be used to achieve the goals of the project. I also seriously doubt the willingness of most people to install yet another battery-guzzling Electron app.

There is a browser extension actually:

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/b/eonhdpmmjdekgnmc...

Re: Bottle: A Bitcoin SV Browser

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Post by cocktailpeanuts »

Solvitieg wrote: post #20

If we are posting data to the Bitcoin blockchain, does this data live alongside transaction data? And if so, are there fees to host this data (as we need to pay miners to include data in a block)?

i think all these things we're looking at in the browser are stored as transactions using some clever protocol scheme.

Fell down the rabbit hole and found these:

https://b.bitdb.network

https://c.bitdb.network

https://bit.planaria.network

Re: Bottle: A Bitcoin SV Browser

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Post by jacobroyquebec »

onion-soup wrote: post #16
n00bdude wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So how does one go about uploading, say, a PDF for someone to access with the browser? Very cool btw

You can upload it using, say https://add.bico.media/ . Then you just share the transaction ID or sha256 hash of the pdf file to recepient. Recepient can access that file as long as blockchain exists (basically forever). And all this is achieved by OP_RETURN, a special op_code in bitcoin script that allows you to return data to blockchain.

Except that the link you suggest is for BSV, a bastard fork of bitcoin that tries to lure newcomers.

Re: Bottle: A Bitcoin SV Browser

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Post by onion-soup »

Solvitieg wrote: post #20

If we are posting data to the Bitcoin blockchain, does this data live alongside transaction data? And if so, are there fees to host this data (as we need to pay miners to include data in a block)?

Yes. It lives as a transaction output under op code 'OP_RETURN'.

See example of weather data stored on chain https://whatsonchain.com/tx/6dac238576e9778458bb62a2f7d936fd...

>are there fees to host this data (as we need to pay miners to include data in a block)?

Yes, current fees are about 1 sat/byte.

This is really a write once, read many type of system.

Re: Bottle: A Bitcoin SV Browser

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Post by musicious »

Solvitieg wrote: post #20

If we are posting data to the Bitcoin blockchain, does this data live alongside transaction data? And if so, are there fees to host this data (as we need to pay miners to include data in a block)?

Yes.. the data is included in the OP RETURN field. You pay 1 Satoshi per byte. For now that's the minimum relay fee.

Re: Bottle: A Bitcoin SV Browser

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Post by [deleted] »

volaski wrote: post #7
qz_ wrote: post #5

Certainly an interesting idea, but I think you're raising the barrier to entry by not simply implementing this as a browser extension. By having to develop a completely separate browser you're wasting a lot of time and resources that could otherwise be used to achieve the goals of the project. I also seriously doubt the willingness of most people to install yet another battery-guzzling Electron app.

According to the website: Why a standalone browser instead of building as an extension for existing browsers, or waiting for mainstream browser support? 1. Build for the future Many things we take for granted in the old "web browsing" experience--including the security model--no longer apply in the new world of Bitcoin. The thing is, Bitcoin is NOT "the next web". In many ways it's completely opposite of what the WWW…

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Re: Bottle: A Bitcoin SV Browser

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Post by onion-soup »

ge96 wrote: post #3

Kind of interesting, would like to have a map of the known links/what is it at a basic overview level at least eg. file, site, image, etc... Only concern to me is that "lack of distributors" if you compare against public web so what do you put in here? That depends though, someone has to host, you(pay bills), or big company that has free hosting like a forum.

You can browse images storted on chain https://bitstagram.bitdb.network/

It just renders all MIME type img files that are stored as OP_RETURNs. Oh, also you can tip to the sender out of the box (because the uploader's address is just a bitcoin address!)

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