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Medicalising everyday life doesn't help anyone's mental health

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Re: Medicalising everyday life doesn't help anyone's mental health

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A friend of mine is affected by this, combined with her innate hypochondriac tendencies it makes her life very difficult and her sense of self-worth and confidence very low.

However, I am at a loss as to how to approach her to help her. Trying to convey this to her would sound more like an accusation of hypochondria.

Re: Medicalising everyday life doesn't help anyone's mental health

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post #11

A friend of mine is affected by this, combined with her innate hypochondriac tendencies it makes her life very difficult and her sense of self-worth and confidence very low. However, I am at a loss as to how to approach her to help her. Trying to convey this to her would sound more like an accusation of hypochondria.

From what I understand, it can be helpful to get people to think about themselves in the third person.

We can be much harder on ourselves than we would ever be on a friend, and if you can get her to think about her own set of problems as if they were yours, what sort of advice would she offer you?

We get wrapped up in a set of outcomes and every setback feels like a harbinger of doom. I saw a retweet recently from someone with chronic fatigue who wished they could go back in time and use their dwindling energy to set themselves up for the future instead of spending everything on trying to 'get back to normal so they could start their life again'.

Look at where you are. What could you do this week or month to get to something you could live with or even enjoy? Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

He says, realizing he needs to follow the same advice...

Re: Medicalising everyday life doesn't help anyone's mental health

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I wonder about this as well. I see lists of anxiety symptoms shared and I meet every one of them, but I don't consider myself to have anxiety. Isn't it normal to be anxious in stressful situations or to be depressed when things are going poorly. Then I do some reading about it and I wonder maybe its not normal, maybe I'm not supposed to feel this way. I'm sure there are people with mental health conditions that do ne…

Well, first of all, only certain professionals are licensed to administer those tests, and for good reason, because otherwise people would self-diagnose too much or too little. > […] I don't consider myself to have anxiety. Everyone has anxiety. Some people have anxiety disorders. > Isn't it normal to be anxious in stressful situations […] People with anxiety disorders are anxious in normal, non-stressful situations.…

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Re: Medicalising everyday life doesn't help anyone's mental health

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> One of the things that is most protective to mental health is not to spend too much of our lives consciously obsessing about it.

That last statement is rather asinine and seems at odds with the rest of the article. I think it's fair to say negative emotions aren't the same as mental illness, but ignoring those negative emotions and keeping a "stiff upper lip" can lead to much bigger emotional problems down the road. There's a middle ground that involves accepting & experiencing the lows along with the highs as a part of life.

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I wonder about this as well. I see lists of anxiety symptoms shared and I meet every one of them, but I don't consider myself to have anxiety. Isn't it normal to be anxious in stressful situations or to be depressed when things are going poorly. Then I do some reading about it and I wonder maybe its not normal, maybe I'm not supposed to feel this way. I'm sure there are people with mental health conditions that do ne…

I don’t think anyone really knows if other people experience anything that is similar. I go back and forth on that a lot. But in terms of medicalizing things, who cares if it’s normal. It’s not about being normal, it’s about being better. I get prescribed a lot more medication than I need. I don’t take it often, but I like the options having anti-depressants, sleeping pills, stimulants, and anti-anxiety medication pr…

Better living through chemistry. Not at all what I was thinking when I wrote this post, but I love this take on it. I think if that is truly the drive behind the medicalisation of every day life we would be better off dropping the facade just allow people to live their best life through chemical augmentation, if they so desire.

My mind takes the wide application of this to a scary dystopian conclusion, but perhaps it doesn't have to be this way. Or conversely perhaps we are already there.

Re: Medicalising everyday life doesn't help anyone's mental health

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I wonder about this as well. I see lists of anxiety symptoms shared and I meet every one of them, but I don't consider myself to have anxiety. Isn't it normal to be anxious in stressful situations or to be depressed when things are going poorly. Then I do some reading about it and I wonder maybe its not normal, maybe I'm not supposed to feel this way. I'm sure there are people with mental health conditions that do ne…

I think you're right to question. The rule of thumb I've heard, which seems sensible to me, is is the condition/symptom negatively affecting your ability to go about your day-to-day life . If not, then whatever you're experiencing is probably "normal enough". There's no great mass of people with completely by-the-book mental processes; everyone's a little "weird" in some way. On the other hand, I suppose you may not…

> is the condition/symptom negatively affecting your ability to go about your day-to-day life

I wonder though, is this even too broad? Perhaps people need to overcome some of this adversity. Not everything is painless in life nor should it be.

Re: Medicalising everyday life doesn't help anyone's mental health

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I couldn't get a vitamin B12 injection, the materials cost of which is less than £1 with no negative side effects, more often than every 12 weeks from my doctor. Despite feeling awful at 8 weeks onwards, to the point of not being able to work, and better again every time I had the injection.

I didn't care if it was placebo (although why it would be placebo at 8 weeks but deemed not a placebo at 12 weeks I struggle to understand), I felt I needed it more often and eventually found a doctor willing to try it. For me, it works.

What got to me though, is while the doctor wasn't willing to try a vitamin slightly more frequently, he offered anti-depressants at the drop of a hat. He couldn't have been more forwards in offering them and didn't take the hint when I told him I didn't really want them - I had to give him a firm no in the end!

Re: Medicalising everyday life doesn't help anyone's mental health

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> One of the things that is most protective to mental health is not to spend too much of our lives consciously obsessing about it. That last statement is rather asinine and seems at odds with the rest of the article. I think it's fair to say negative emotions aren't the same as mental illness, but ignoring those negative emotions and keeping a "stiff upper lip" can lead to much bigger emotional problems down the road…

> ignoring those negative emotions and keeping a "stiff upper lip" can lead to much bigger emotional problems down the road

To me, keeping a "stiff upper lip" isn't so much about ignoring negative emotions, but more about behaving in the right way even when emotions pull you the wrong way. In my experience, exercising that skill doesn't create emotional problems, but solves them.

Re: Medicalising everyday life doesn't help anyone's mental health

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> One of the things that is most protective to mental health is not to spend too much of our lives consciously obsessing about it. That last statement is rather asinine and seems at odds with the rest of the article. I think it's fair to say negative emotions aren't the same as mental illness, but ignoring those negative emotions and keeping a "stiff upper lip" can lead to much bigger emotional problems down the road…

Well the author is certainly privileged to not have to think about his own mental health very much, considering who he is and what he does for a living.

The real thing that's happening with mental health in the US and probably the UK is that people aren't so much deciding that their personal problems are diagnosable psychiatric conditions as they are deciding that they would like to become mentally healthier and are seeking help. And the medical profession, being ill-equipped to actually provide a means to change, is turning to psychiatric medicines to control what are essentially patterns of thinking and being. At the gym it would be like people seeking to become better and instead of receiving personal training they would be given steroids.

I was one of those people who wanted to change how I thought about things and how I acted. And so I sought therapy not necessarily because I had a clinical disorder, but because there were a lot of probably sub-clinical issues I was having with my thinking, and having someone rational and well-trained helped me change my thinking and my behavior so it was no longer causing problems for me. Frankly I was nearing a meltdown of some sort.

It's not the same as needing psychiatric care for a personality disorder or for Schizophrenia or for any number of treatable, identifiable psychiatric disorders. But he's standing up this straw man that people like me are just wimps and they just need to suck it up and have a cup of tea or something. It's pretty patronizing.

Re: Medicalising everyday life doesn't help anyone's mental health

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> One of the things that is most protective to mental health is not to spend too much of our lives consciously obsessing about it. That last statement is rather asinine and seems at odds with the rest of the article. I think it's fair to say negative emotions aren't the same as mental illness, but ignoring those negative emotions and keeping a "stiff upper lip" can lead to much bigger emotional problems down the road…

I think I know the kind of people the author is thinking of when he says this. Mental illness is core to their identity, and they think of everything in terms of what will "protect their mental health". It's good to be aware of how you're feeling, but at some point you also have to set your attention to just living your life.
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