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Support for right-to-repair laws slowly grows

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Re: Support for right-to-repair laws slowly grows

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If you print ten pages a year, I'd rather you go to a print shop instead of being yet another person whose inkjet printer will end up in a landfill in a year.

I have a cheap laser printer that will probably last me years. Also, what's the carbon footprint of driving to Kinkos ten times a year vs a printer?

Laser printers aren't subsidized in this way AFAIK; the subthread here is about the inkjet printer business.

Re: Support for right-to-repair laws slowly grows

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I have a cheap laser printer that will probably last me years. Also, what's the carbon footprint of driving to Kinkos ten times a year vs a printer?

Laser printers aren't subsidized in this way AFAIK; the subthread here is about the inkjet printer business.

Honestly, what's the diff re: sustainability? There's not a huge difference in how long either type lasts at that price point afaik.

Re: Support for right-to-repair laws slowly grows

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I was clarifying. Interesting that you clearly read this and the other reply yet you don't have a substantive response.

Because it’s silly. The cost of disposing of or recycling a cell phone is negligible compared to its margins. What are the margins on an iPhone?

Are iPhones an example of planned obsolescence? I think of iPhones as much more durable than cheap Android phones. Don't you think those would be less cheap if it weren't "free" to toss them in 2 years?

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Yea, if you can get Kitchenaid to sell it to you. They absolutely refuse to sell me, as a consumer, the grease they use to lubricate the gear head. Even after arguing for half an hour with customer service.

Grease isn't something that Kitchenaid makes. You should be able to easily buy appropriate grease anywhere for dirt-cheap. For small appliances with plastic gears, it's most likely some kind of white lithium grease. A little research online should tell you what kind of grease is appropriate for that application, and then it should be easy to get some inexpensively, perhaps even at your local auto parts store in a tin…

They do sell a food-grade grease, but not to me. Looking at the existing grease in the gearhead, it looks similar to axle grease. Researching food-grade grease on Amazon shows many reviews raising this problem, but no definitive solutions. It's not lithium grease.

Re: Support for right-to-repair laws slowly grows

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post #227

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Grease isn't something that Kitchenaid makes. You should be able to easily buy appropriate grease anywhere for dirt-cheap. For small appliances with plastic gears, it's most likely some kind of white lithium grease. A little research online should tell you what kind of grease is appropriate for that application, and then it should be easy to get some inexpensively, perhaps even at your local auto parts store in a tin…

They do sell a food-grade grease, but not to me. Looking at the existing grease in the gearhead, it looks similar to axle grease. Researching food-grade grease on Amazon shows many reviews raising this problem, but no definitive solutions. It's not lithium grease.

Why would you need a "food grade" grease? You're not eating the grease; it's supposed to be contained inside the mechanism. If it's leaking out into the food, that sounds like a pretty horrible design and a product you shouldn't use under any circumstances. Maybe I'm just not understanding this product at all.

Is it golden brown, or an off-white?

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post #245

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They do sell a food-grade grease, but not to me. Looking at the existing grease in the gearhead, it looks similar to axle grease. Researching food-grade grease on Amazon shows many reviews raising this problem, but no definitive solutions. It's not lithium grease.

Why would you need a "food grade" grease? You're not eating the grease; it's supposed to be contained inside the mechanism. If it's leaking out into the food, that sounds like a pretty horrible design and a product you shouldn't use under any circumstances. Maybe I'm just not understanding this product at all. Is it golden brown, or an off-white?

It is golden brown.

My mixer is 50 years old. Over the years, I've pulled the head apart a couple of times when it starts to squeak, and it's obvious there is a very gradual loss of grease - I've re-spread it into the gears.

There is no seal on the shaft that holds the beater.

Kitchenaid is made by Hobart, and they are the lead manufacturer in this market. The design is fine and very rugged.

I don't want use any grease that has traces of heavy metals or, e.g., moly disulfide. There is such a thing as food grade grease for use in mixers, candy machines, etc., but I just haven't yet laid my hands on any.

Re: Support for right-to-repair laws slowly grows

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Because it’s silly. The cost of disposing of or recycling a cell phone is negligible compared to its margins. What are the margins on an iPhone?

Are iPhones an example of planned obsolescence? I think of iPhones as much more durable than cheap Android phones. Don't you think those would be less cheap if it weren't "free" to toss them in 2 years?

I thought that's what all the Apple-haters say online. They claim that iPhones are the epitome of planned obsolescense.

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Re: Support for right-to-repair laws slowly grows

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post #229

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I'd imagine it going something like this: "Hello, I have information that would likely be useful as evidence for the antitrust lawsuit against Google." "Thanks, but I think we have it covered" -or- "Thanks, let me take a note so we both feel good about this interaction and never actually follow up on this."

Do you imagine or do you have experience? My contacts with the government has been okay, not amazing but okay. Shouldn’t we try to increase communication between the government and its citizens?

Yes! We very much should, even if every interaction isn’t perfect or results in a slam dunk outcome.
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