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NASA Has Been Hacked

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Re: NASA Has Been Hacked

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Wow. Try to opt out of their data tracking, an option they're required to add. "This may take up to a few minutes to process" They make you wait at this long ass loading screen while they "process" your request not to have cookies. Here's the outline for people who don't want to wait minutes to read an article. https://outline.com/TZSBv4

I was actually surprised that it went all the way through to 100% and did something. Usually those things break down at some point.

Re: NASA Has Been Hacked

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I discussed this recently here on HN [0], the fake spinner is a dark-UI to 'punish' you for opting out. If you just accept the popup disappears immediately. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20131381

I don't think that's actually true. Rather, it's an architectural thing — because all these ad systems were designed without consent in mind, accepting is a no-op, whereas refusing consent requires an outbound request to set some sort of "do not track" flag somewhere (presumably as a cookie).

If accepting is a no-op then you are being tracked even before you make your decision - as the page already have been loaded.

A brutal violation of course but I absolutely expect that to be the case.

Re: NASA Has Been Hacked

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post #26
post #4

Wow. Try to opt out of their data tracking, an option they're required to add. "This may take up to a few minutes to process" They make you wait at this long ass loading screen while they "process" your request not to have cookies. Here's the outline for people who don't want to wait minutes to read an article. https://outline.com/TZSBv4

That's grounds for a GDPR complaint against TRUSTe and Forbes. Opting in or out must not be a condition for accessing content, so a popup that covers the page is problematic. Opting out should also be as simple as opting in, not a maze of options with progress spinners. File a complaint folks.

Unless they geo-block GDPR countries and call it a day

Re: NASA Has Been Hacked

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IT security people need to stop thinking in terms of disallowing “unauthorized” devices on physical (wired and WiFi) and recognize start designing for human nature. Assume that the physical networks are compromised, and have all privileged resources only accept connections over VPN. Is it perfect? No, but it makes further compromise harder. The assumption of no trust also means acknowledging that you need gate incomi…

> IT security people need to stop thinking in terms of disallowing “unauthorized” devices on physical (wired and WiFi) and recognize start designing for human nature.

I can assure you that many, many security people (I would say all security people, but I have no doubt that there's some laggards working under the radar somewhere) already think like this. This is all part of a multi-layer security strategy, and having encrypted communication on top of a secured physical network is pretty standard and is what a lot of orgs strive for. Unfortunately, it really isn't feasible and it's not because of any decisions by the security people, because...

> have all privileged resources only accept connections over VPN

This sounds great until you remember that half of your organization runs on legacy software that doesn't play nice with forcing VPNs and your technical architect has informed you that they aren't planned to upgrade to newer software until 2030. This is especially so in government orgs (like NASA).

Re: NASA Has Been Hacked

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's grounds for a GDPR complaint against TRUSTe and Forbes. Opting in or out must not be a condition for accessing content, so a popup that covers the page is problematic. Opting out should also be as simple as opting in, not a maze of options with progress spinners. File a complaint folks.

Unless they geo-block GDPR countries and call it a day

They do not block EU countries at the moment. It's up to them to react badly, but we must still call out their behavior.

Re: NASA Has Been Hacked

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Hopefully, this doesn't cause fear mongering around raspberry pi devices. It's not a stretch to imagine a bureaucrat reading articles like this, seeing "a raspberry pi was plugged in", and forming a negative opinion of the device and people that use them.

Re: NASA Has Been Hacked

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think that's actually true. Rather, it's an architectural thing — because all these ad systems were designed without consent in mind, accepting is a no-op, whereas refusing consent requires an outbound request to set some sort of "do not track" flag somewhere (presumably as a cookie).

Why do you think it's not true?

Starting from Hanlon's razor, you assume incompetence is likelier than malice. Saving the "do not track" preference as a cookie is the most obvious way to distinguish new visitors with no cookie from users who have opted-out, but this means issuing a request to each and every ad network to store a cookie with them. Indeed, a quick look at Chrome's network tab reveals that they are, indeed, making a bazillion requests that is consistent with that explanation.

Re: NASA Has Been Hacked

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I highly recommend reading the actual audit[1]. There's a lot of good details in there, similar to the Senate report on the Equifax breach a few days ago. There were several problems: the inventory tracking issue was particularly enlightening: >system administrators did not consistently update the inventory system when they added devices to the network. Specifically, we found that 8 of 11 system administrators respon…

Back in the early 90s I had a summer internship for a contractor at Goddard Space Flight Center. My job for the entire summer was to track down and inventory a list of 1000s of devices across the entire campus. At the time they were building a tracking database for all the devices on the campus. The printout I was handed on my first day had not been updated in several years. It basically contained a tracking ID, what…

I interned at Goddard in 2006 and my PI had a rogue wireless access point for his interns to use. Apparently it was a long and convoluted process to get network access for personal computers, so he didn’t even bother trying. I remember some of my fellow interns complaining about having to work offline for the first month of their 10 week internship.
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