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Magic Leap Says Ex-Engineer Copied Headset for China
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#12>Magic Leap alleges that Chi Xu, who left in 2016, exploited its confidential information to “quickly develop a prototype of lightweight, ergonomically designed, mixed reality glasses for use with smart phones and other devices that are strikingly similar” to the Florida-based startup’s designs. >The startup alleges that Xu plotted during his roughly 13 months working there to launch his own competing company in Chin…
but crucially, does not allege that Chi exfiltrated any CI/trade secrets or infringed on any IP Their complaint alleges exactly that, repeatedly.
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#13>Magic Leap alleges that Chi Xu, who left in 2016, exploited its confidential information to “quickly develop a prototype of lightweight, ergonomically designed, mixed reality glasses for use with smart phones and other devices that are strikingly similar” to the Florida-based startup’s designs. >The startup alleges that Xu plotted during his roughly 13 months working there to launch his own competing company in Chin…
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#15Just a reminder that they’ve blown all their credibility.
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#16Mr. Xu’s misuse and exploitation of Magic Leap’s image and goodwill is further manifested in Nreal’s shameless use of whales in its demo experiences Are we patenting Whales in demos now? This is exactly the kind of myopia ML continues to have - thinking they were the first ones to use a whales in a VR/AR demo. I guess Intel was ripping off ML with Leviathan demo in 2014 [1] and theBlu was ripping off ML with their Vi…
Perhaps the easy availability of royalty free 3d models is relevant (https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/animals/fish/humpback-wha...)? Perhaps Oculus Rift museum humpback whale VR back in 2015 was an inspiration?
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#17Hey, did Bloomberg ever retract its entirely unverified Chinese spy chip story? Just a reminder that they’ve blown all their credibility.
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#18Read the complaint here https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/15787938/1/magic-leap-i...
1) Using the same proprietary font in their logo was a really dumb idea:
> https://i.imgur.com/7pYZ8bp.png
2) Alleges he engaged in internal meetings "outside the scope of his work at Magic Leap" in order to gain useful information, while simultaneously neglecting his duties at work as he planned to start his own company in China. Before launching a product that looks and functions very similar to the Magic Leap product within a 2yr timespan (quitting in mid-2016, started in 2017, launched in 2019) while Magic Leap has been at it since 2010.
3) Their primary evidence seems to be some useless "Private Information" confidentiality form we all sign
4) The other is some Youtube interview the Nreal founder did where he openly admitted to being inspired by his work at Magic Leap:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcPB4POYkpc
Where he basically said that Magic Leap was being too ambitious with an "impossible" goal of trying to put it all in one small device... and he wanted to utilize Chinese manufacturing pipelines to build the same thing but much simpler by utilizing existing smartphone and laptop tech.
5) Finally another section compared demos by both companies, both involving whales:
Magic Leap's whale demos:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LM0T6hLH15k
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyCoTzRzHxo
Nreal's twitter picture demo:
> https://i.imgur.com/jPIGMkf.png
That's about it. Points 2) and 3) get repeated ad-nauseam and not very convincingly IMO.
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#20Hey, did Bloomberg ever retract its entirely unverified Chinese spy chip story? Just a reminder that they’ve blown all their credibility.
Be that as it may, this is a report of a filed lawsuit. It's a lot harder to get the fact that a lawsuit was filed wrong, as it's trivial to verify. They even listed the docket number.