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Re: Swedish Couple Builds Greenhouse Around Home

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Post by fulafel » Sat, Jun 22, 2019, 10:22 AM UTC

war1025 wrote: post #132

gavia1 wrote: post #20

I wonder how they control humidity inside the home and prevent mildew/mould? The air in the greenhouse would be very humid all year round I would have thought?

I am a little confused about this fear people have of mold and mildew in their houses. Up until very recently people's houses weren't far off from the outside environment. Generally in the summer the best they did was keep the rain out and provide some shade. Houses weren't uninhabitable mold pits back then, why would they be now?

There's lots of things we don't understand about the health interactions, but even if you don't suffer ill effects at least you'll risk stigma if you and your clothes smell of mildew.

It's sometimes hard to imagine how hard and unprecitable lives of past generations were. For most of history people's indoor firepits didn't have chimneys, for example, and the health effects were less of a concern than wars, infectious diseases, getting hurt in physical labour, or famine.

Also, most old houses were well ventilated and built of mildew resistant materials (= poor insulation and wood).

Re: Swedish Couple Builds Greenhouse Around Home

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Post by johncoltrane » Sat, Jun 22, 2019, 10:25 AM UTC

mayormcmatt wrote: post #26

This reminds me of an apartment complex I saw last year, also in Sweden (north of Stockholm, in Norrtälje). Hard to see inside, but it's practically tropical, with palm trees and flowering plants, and all doors of resident's apartments let out into the garden. https://goo.gl/maps/C7QAYeFm4bc9X28r9

Thanks, this looks pretty comfortable: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DJq6uCZw1k

Re: Swedish Couple Builds Greenhouse Around Home

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Post by tromp » Sat, Jun 22, 2019, 10:36 AM UTC

mayormcmatt wrote: post #26

This reminds me of an apartment complex I saw last year, also in Sweden (north of Stockholm, in Norrtälje). Hard to see inside, but it's practically tropical, with palm trees and flowering plants, and all doors of resident's apartments let out into the garden. https://goo.gl/maps/C7QAYeFm4bc9X28r9

My wife lived for many years in this "sandwich" of two apartment towers flanking an atrium:

http://rentcanada.com/wre/summerland

https://www.winnipegarchitecture.ca/77-university-crescent

Re: Swedish Couple Builds Greenhouse Around Home

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Post by eesmith » Sat, Jun 22, 2019, 10:37 AM UTC

DoreenMichele wrote: post #178

eesmith wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you've been here long enough to know that a phrase like "automatically and without exception" is likely a poor interpretation of what the parent poster meant with "standard household activity". I was born and raised in Florida. In Miami I lived in a 1950s house designed w/o A/C and with effectively no insulation. In Tallahassee I lived in a 1970s house designed for A/C. But we didn't have money, so we didn't…

I think you've been here long enough to know that a phrase like "automatically and without exception" is likely a poor interpretation of what the parent poster meant with "standard household activity". I'm damned if I do, damned if I don't. It doesn't matter how I phrase it, people will have a problem with my real point and will have a problem with me giving first-hand testimony from my life. So I tried to avoid that…

I observed that the statement "I remain unconvinced that a warmer environment automatically and without exception translates to high humidity and mold" - while absolutely a personal observation - was a non-sequitur as no one was making that claim.

Was it a non-sequitur?

I then made a personal observation that architecture was also important, using a similar anecdotal construction that you did. So clearly I don't have a problem with anecdotal evidence. I present a similar anecdotal observation at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14876398#14878461 .

I then ended up with the comment that I don't disagree with your comment, because it's clearly true, just like how other factors are also involved.

If you look through my history you'll see I have a long history of making similar observations for other posters. I see four such on the first page of my comments history.

Re: Swedish Couple Builds Greenhouse Around Home

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, Jun 22, 2019, 10:38 AM UTC

jowsie wrote: post #190

DoreenMichele wrote: post #178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you've been here long enough to know that a phrase like "automatically and without exception" is likely a poor interpretation of what the parent poster meant with "standard household activity". I'm damned if I do, damned if I don't. It doesn't matter how I phrase it, people will have a problem with my real point and will have a problem with me giving first-hand testimony from my life. So I tried to avoid that…

Had no idea who you were, hadn't even considered what gender you may be, and I can say that it is your writing style and phrasing that rubs the wrong way. (IMHO) reading your posts came across as if I was being lectured to/talked down to by someone with feelings of superiority.

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Re: Swedish Couple Builds Greenhouse Around Home

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Post by mothsonasloth » Sat, Jun 22, 2019, 10:53 AM UTC

Interesting to see how well the fruit and veg grows during the winter periods with less sunlight. Maybe they are smaller?

Re: Swedish Couple Builds Greenhouse Around Home

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Post by fit2rule » Sat, Jun 22, 2019, 11:56 AM UTC

mayormcmatt wrote: post #26

This reminds me of an apartment complex I saw last year, also in Sweden (north of Stockholm, in Norrtälje). Hard to see inside, but it's practically tropical, with palm trees and flowering plants, and all doors of resident's apartments let out into the garden. https://goo.gl/maps/C7QAYeFm4bc9X28r9

Very nice - too bad its not a food forest, though ..

Re: Swedish Couple Builds Greenhouse Around Home

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Post by BerniceFTrainor » Sat, Jun 22, 2019, 11:59 AM UTC

fit2rule wrote: post #197

mayormcmatt wrote: post #26

This reminds me of an apartment complex I saw last year, also in Sweden (north of Stockholm, in Norrtälje). Hard to see inside, but it's practically tropical, with palm trees and flowering plants, and all doors of resident's apartments let out into the garden. https://goo.gl/maps/C7QAYeFm4bc9X28r9

Very nice - too bad its not a food forest, though ..

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Re: Swedish Couple Builds Greenhouse Around Home

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Post by krzyk » Sat, Jun 22, 2019, 12:04 PM UTC

DoreenMichele wrote: post #58

gavia1 wrote: post #20

I wonder how they control humidity inside the home and prevent mildew/mould? The air in the greenhouse would be very humid all year round I would have thought?

Why would it be humid? Heat doesn't cause humidity. Deserts can be hot and dry. (Edited are to can be for the pedantic people.)

But greenhouses are humid. Deserts aren't covered in a dome and the dome blocks water from evaporating like in the deserts.

Re: Swedish Couple Builds Greenhouse Around Home

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Post by matz1 » Sat, Jun 22, 2019, 1:21 PM UTC

mosselman wrote: post #187

TumorousJoker wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No need to be pedantic, it's cold 9 months in a year, and that's the point we are trying to make here.

Then write that. Saying winter lasts 9 months is nonsense and nonsense in journalism should be pointed out, though not as aggressively perhaps.

No, its far from nonsense, it makes the article more fun and interesting or maybe the author has different definition of winter. They are not writing formal academic paper.